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Old 01-01-2021, 12:29 PM
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Yep - 2021 will be my last RV build as well, another RV-10.

What I wish for the RV-15 - an updated RV-10. Such as:
- A redesigned cowl, following lessons learned from the updated RV-14 cowl. I believe there is opportunity for reducing drag.
- The new cowl to have a 14Ē spinner. The 13Ē spinner is just out of proportion on the RV-10.
- The new cowl to support a horizontal injection IO-540.
- Redesigned doors that open up and forward, like a Cirrus (less likely to be blown away).
- Redesigned main gear wheel pants (or just buy them from James Cowl). The current ones are way too wide.
- Option to upgrade the brakes.

Carl
I'll second the door mod.
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Old 01-01-2021, 01:11 PM
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Why would you WANT struts? I’m thinking no struts, cantilever wings like on current RVs, 170 knots, 4 place, tailwheel, (with a nosewheel option for the impaired)
My thought on the ideal Bush plane is the Cessna 180. I have owned one since 2009. That said,,,,,
The C172 is probably the most successful airplane ever. If I was the most successful kit company in the world, I would copy another success and put my spin on it. But! The 170 / 172 is under powered.
If There were a kit plane that would fill the gap in kit planes like I think there is.
My idea would sell.
The 180 is a bit big to build
The 170 conversions with larger hp engines are rare and,,, certified...
Mimic success and fill a void and hit a grand slam home run.
Rans has a great kit in the Rans 21. Too small
Bear Hawk,,? Nope,, fabrics , needs a 6 cylinder
Glass Star? Double nope,, friends don’t let friends fly glass airplanes
Struts are needed to tye stuff on, push on. My plane needs struts.
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Old 01-01-2021, 01:47 PM
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You forgot the retractable gear option. You really need it at those speeds.

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I agree with Jay. My Super Rebel is great, but like the 180, it’s big and has 6 cyl engine. I like the comfort and power but it was a challenging build. Something with power that burns less gas. A back seat is mandatory. Need it for the dog to ride on and to load up for the Oshkosh adventures.

Land in the Utah backcountry and you’ll understand the need for struts to push on. Many of the strips have some soft sand in parking and camping areas.
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Old 01-01-2021, 01:55 PM
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I'd like to see a back country RV. STOL, big wheels, good useful load. Not saying I'd buy the kit today but it would probably be my second build if I ever did a second build. My in-progress -7A is likely going to be a hangared asphalt queen its entire life.
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Old 01-01-2021, 02:19 PM
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My thought on the ideal Bush plane is the Cessna 180. I have owned one since 2009. That said,,,,,
The C172 is probably the most successful airplane ever. If I was the most successful kit company in the world, I would copy another success and put my spin on it. But! The 170 / 172 is under powered.
If There were a kit plane that would fill the gap in kit planes like I think there is.
My idea would sell.
The 180 is a bit big to build
The 170 conversions with larger hp engines are rare and,,, certified...
Mimic success and fill a void and hit a grand slam home run.
Rans has a great kit in the Rans 21. Too small
Bear Hawk,,? Nope,, fabrics , needs a 6 cylinder
Glass Star? Double nope,, friends donít let friends fly glass airplanes
Struts are needed to tye stuff on, push on. My plane needs struts.
You just described the Dream Tundra. Designed about a dozen years ago. They sold about 36 kits, and there didnít seem to be any more demand. About 18 have flown. Nothing wrong with it except the usual growing pains of a low-serial-number design. So the question you have to ask yourself is...why didnít they sell better? If that design is so in demand, why is the company for sale, with no takers?

Actual, honest questions....

Paul
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Old 01-01-2021, 02:24 PM
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My thought on the ideal Bush plane is the Cessna 180. I have owned one since 2009. That said,,,,,
The C172 is probably the most successful airplane ever. If I was the most successful kit company in the world, I would copy another success and put my spin on it. But! The 170 / 172 is under powered.
If There were a kit plane that would fill the gap in kit planes like I think there is.
My idea would sell.
The 180 is a bit big to build
The 170 conversions with larger hp engines are rare and,,, certified...
Mimic success and fill a void and hit a grand slam home run.
Rans has a great kit in the Rans 21. Too small
Bear Hawk,,? Nope,, fabrics , needs a 6 cylinder
Glass Star? Double nope,, friends donít let friends fly glass airplanes
Struts are needed to tye stuff on, push on. My plane needs struts.
We seem to get by without struts on the low wings... could you imagine Pawnee style struts on an RV-4 or -8? Ewww! I. All about the high wing stol type plane, maybe someone could build those cargo pods to hang under the wing on hard points? Aerodynamic rifle cases? Put one of those collapsing tail pushing tubes on the sides of the fuselage like an L-19 bird dog.. but lose the struts for speed! Hey, we all have opinions, right?
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Old 01-01-2021, 03:08 PM
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You just described the Dream Tundra. Designed about a dozen years ago. They sold about 36 kits, and there didnít seem to be any more demand. About 18 have flown. Nothing wrong with it except the usual growing pains of a low-serial-number design. So the question you have to ask yourself is...why didnít they sell better? If that design is so in demand, why is the company for sale, with no takers?

Actual, honest questions....

Paul

Could it have been something about company/customer support?
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Old 01-01-2021, 03:25 PM
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Happy New Year to all

Paul
''You just described the Dream Tundra.''

We build some good stuff North of the Border sometimes but we have a tendency to give them away ( The C-Series been a prime example

Bruno
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Old 01-01-2021, 11:11 PM
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Pilots are never satisfied, always wanting a little more power, a little more room, a little more (insert alphabet here) be grateful you own the most sucsesful exp built machines ever as they are!
Everything we fly is a trade off, even in the Airline world, it's ALL about mission, pick one & stick to it!

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Old 01-01-2021, 11:33 PM
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Make the struts more like a wing so you can have a biplane.................


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