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05-20-2022, 05:48 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Greenville, SC
Posts: 668
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The bottom is falling out - airplanes
I, like most people, especially retirees like me, are watching our 401Ks go down faster than a Tripacer with an engine out. I also see members here speculating about the future worth of our beloved RVs. I clearly remember in 2006, helping a friend find a hard-to-find 180 horse, constant speed, STC modified Cessna 172. We searched the U.S. only to find a real beauty practically within earshot of his hangar. He paid top dollar for it, invested in a new interior and avionics and enjoyed it thoroughly for two years. Then, the bottom fell out in 2008. Airplanes, like houses, the stock market and practically every other "investment" tanked. I silently worried about how my buddy was feeling about his purchase. We would meet monthly, after work at one of our hangars and drink beer and generally discuss the world situation. The subject of his Cessna purchase came up and I braced for his answer. He said, "Yeah, I have regrets. I just wish I'd bought an even nicer one." I was obviously surprised and he saw it in my face. He continued, "all those numbers on my statements provide me no enjoyment through these times but that airplane and, the time we spend enjoying the flying and each other's company is priceless."
This too shall pass. Enjoy those RVs even if you have to scale back flying a bit. Just having a beer with a buddy while looking at, talking about and admiring these works of art will make you go home feeling better.
We've always heard that airplanes aren't investments......maybe they are.
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05-20-2022, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Texas
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Spot on Rob!
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05-20-2022, 09:29 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Chandler, AZ
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Don't get off
In the words of Dave Ramsey, "The only ones that get hurt are those who get off the roller coaster in the middle of the ride."
There will be some that will sell, no doubt and I think the market for planes will flatten out dramatically in the next few months.
I'm really curious as to how it will affect Oshkosh this year.
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Darwin N. Barrie
Chandler AZ
www.JDair.com
RV-7 N717AZ Painted and Complete
2021 Outstanding Workmanship Sun N' Fun
2021 Gold Lindy Grand Champion Kit Plane
2022 Copperstate Fly in Grand Champion/Best Metal
2022 Reserve Grand Champion Sun N' Fun
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05-20-2022, 09:43 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Anacortes Wa
Posts: 453
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Back to the OP's point .. it's the joy of owning and flying your own plane, even if a little less today, it's still your refuge.
No matter the cost, the smile I get on every takeoff is truly priceless. A longtime dream come true.
Be well
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Bill (Wild) VA-165 '90-'93
Anacortes, Wa
First Flight 7/17/2021!! 200 hours 6/22
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05-21-2022, 03:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: UK
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It’s how you look at something that determines it’s worth. The -8 I’m building is not an investment, I’m doing it because I love doing it. My home is not an investment to me, I live in it because I love living in it.
It’s people who see only the cost of something that really miss it’s worth.
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05-21-2022, 04:00 AM
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Join Date: May 2021
Location: Palmerston North
Posts: 106
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I don’t care what my 7 is worth….I’m enjoying building it….can’t take the money with you….can create satisfaction, enjoyment and memories.
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05-21-2022, 05:42 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: 08A
Posts: 10,758
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Quote:
Originally Posted by swift12
I don’t care what my 7 is worth….I’m enjoying building it….can’t take the money with you….can create satisfaction, enjoyment and memories.
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Yep.
I was finishing my -8 when the markets were tanked circa 2008~2010. If I had taken that $100K and bought in, I'd have an extra $500K today, but lost a million worth of friends.
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Originally Posted by RV7Guy
I'm really curious as to how it will affect Oshkosh this year.
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Ha! See you at the party!
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05-21-2022, 06:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Tulsa, OK
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Originally Posted by DanH
Yep.
I was finishing my -8 when the markets were tanked circa 2008~2010. If I had taken that $100K and bought in, I'd have an extra $500K today, but lost a million worth of friends.
Ha! See you at the party!
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Same here, same timescale, and I smile each time I am with the -7. I have met so many good people since then that make the investment in time and money literally priceless.
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05-21-2022, 06:47 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: KBUU
Posts: 284
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanH
Yep.
I was finishing my -8 when the markets were tanked circa 2008~2010. If I had taken that $100K and bought in, I'd have an extra $500K today, but lost a million worth of friends.
Ha! See you at the party!
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I’m with Dan on this. The enjoyment from building/flying my RV and the friends made along the way are priceless.
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RV-6A
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05-21-2022, 06:50 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Defiance, MO
Posts: 1,915
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Skid
I’m with Dan on this. The enjoyment from building/flying my RV and the friends made along the way are priceless.
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I think that is the very definition of Experimental- Amateur Built.
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Based Creve Coeur Airport (1H0)
RV-6A - flying 1000+ hours
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There is something fascinating about science. One gets such wholesale returns of conjecture out of such a trifling investment of fact. —MARK TWAIN
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