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Old 03-02-2020, 11:57 AM
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Default Patience and Percieverence

Well done, mine was sent to me in 97, the emp. Then I began in earnest to build by ordering the wings in 2012 and the QB fuse 2014. I am now painting the bird and sending painted parts to rented hanger for assembly and first flight to happen around June 1 or July.

Awsome that you are still building and I would advise to buy the QB fuse it certainly helped me to get things rolling faster.

So many hours now i have lost track but close to 1600 building and 3000 researching and reading!

Build on and enjoy

Dave
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Old 03-25-2020, 05:33 AM
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Default Back to the future

I'm back on the tools and building again now, after a 20 year break, and picking up where I left off on the part-build fuselage. Before moving house for the third time, I took pictures of the fuselage skeleton to help with putting it back together again at the new workshop. The old workshop was 14 feet by 20 feet and I found it a bit awkward to build efficiently in a small-ish place.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/V2...=w1680-h881-ft

I partially disassembled the fuselage frame by separating the section behind the baggage compartment. The front section fit into a box trailer and the jig went on top of my Toyota for the 400km drive. I took the wings on a separate trip, on the same trailer, sitting on top of a foam mattress.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/a2...=w1680-h881-ft

Now at the new workshop, which is much bigger, I have reassembled the jig and the fuselage frame and also took the opportunity to de-burr and prime those parts that I did not get to do 20 years ago.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/wB...=w1680-h881-ft

So far I have been really enjoying working on the project again. It is helpful to have a bit of a distraction from the crazy virus thing that is affecting all of us at the moment.

I am going slowly and carefully and checking over everything that Younger Me did. Most of it is making sense and I've found a couple of mistakes that I've fixed. I've got the latest plans on CD and have been checking back and forth against the paper drawings that originally came with the kit. I'm following the Frank Justice manual and the extra detail is helpful.

Of course VAF has been a great help to get me motivated again and to know that this can be done! Building on in interesting times!!
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Old 03-25-2020, 04:07 PM
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Default retrofit nose gear

To add an additional complication, I am in the middle of retrofitting the new design engine mount and nose gear to my similar vintage RV-6A. The install is going well, it is a very well designed and executed piece. If you are inclined to do it, now is the ideal time, before you have done engine, cowl and baffles.
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Old 03-25-2020, 06:05 PM
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To add an additional complication, I am in the middle of retrofitting the new design engine mount and nose gear to my similar vintage RV-6A. The install is going well, it is a very well designed and executed piece. If you are inclined to do it, now is the ideal time, before you have done engine, cowl and baffles.
I agree it is a worthwhile investment and intend to order when I get closer to installing the engine mount. My firewall has preliminary holes only for the engine mount which came with the kit. It will also save having to modify the old nose gear leg per the Vans SB.

Another change I'm considering is 380-150 x 5 tyres on the mains, and I understand the wheel spats will need to be raised. I will operate from a grass strip and the bigger tyres should roll better.
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Old 04-02-2020, 12:24 AM
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Default Going in a circle

I went around in a circle today, April 1st carried over!

I've been checking over the fuselage frame and noticed the smallest F-612 bulkhead at the tail end was installed with the flanges facing forward. But there is a one-line statement in the construction manual that says to orient flanges backward for the -6A (versus the -6 which has two parts riveted together, one facing forward, one facing back).

I decided to make another bulkhead, similar to the 6, so as to have flanges facing backward as well as forward.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Rmt...w?usp=drivesdk

Made the part, went to drill the parts together, checked the rivet spacing on the plans and noticed a revision to have the flange face forward on the -6A!

So a morning's work for nothing (other than some ongoing education).
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Old 04-15-2020, 07:10 AM
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Default Old But Good Rivets

I'm on to the next stage of the fuselage skeleton and have been riveting the frame together. The central section took a bit of head scratching and body contortion around the seat and baggage ribs because of the narrow space and shared rivets. I riveted the most inaccessible rivets first so I could pivot the rib other end aside enough to get in with the rivet gun and bucking bar. The VAF trick of using a small bit of rubber hose helped to keep the flanges tight. There's an extra rivet on the flange on the third from right seat rib, because, well because there needed to be one... that location should have been easy but it was near the end of the day.



My old rivet gun from Oshkosh 92 second hand fly market is still going fine. Because it was made in Chicago I guess!!
Rivets are from back when I got the kit, so they are 27 years old. I thought they might have passed a use by date, but they still seem OK.



I have still got some original primer, unfortunately this product is no longer available, it was made under license from AKZO. Still works. We all prime our RV's around here.



Part of the timber ladder jig frame caused an obstruction when I went to fit the channel for the elevator bell crank. The jig was built per plan dimensions but this "cut out and brace" modification was needed so the channel would fit.



Next there was an alignment problem with the rear baggage bulkhead sides and the front edge of the bell crank channel. This would have caused a concave back for the baggage compartment. I triple checked all dimensions against the plans but ended up having to adjust the position of the bulkhead to get things to fit better. The jig needed another modification so that the top of the baggage bulkhead could move back about 1/2", it meant ripping out and replacing the first jig mod.



The next stage is to start fitting the belly skins, I will be back-drilling and using my secret marking aid tool.
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Old 04-15-2020, 07:24 AM
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The finishing kit shipped in 2000 so I have the overhead rudder pedals (but not yet the revised nose gear leg and fork). The empennage kit shipped in 1992, and the wing+fuselage in 1993. It looks like the firewall top got tipped forward in 1994, so I will need to order or fabricate the revised upper forward ribs. I will also probably need to check that the top skin is the right size. Thanks for those thoughts.
The "tip forward" firewall was before that. I finished my RV-6s in early '93 and had that update.
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Old 04-24-2020, 08:09 PM
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Default Kit improvements

For interest, here's and example of how much the RV kits have improved over time. The "raw" brake pedals on the left came with the fuselage kit in the mid 90's and the pedals on the right came with the finishing kit in 2000, when I purchased the optional co-pilot brakes.



I watched the clock and it took 1.5 hours of marking and drilling to convert the earlier pedals to look like the newer pedals.



And here's another box of parts from the mid 90's that all need marking, cutting and drilling. I'm gradually working out what goes where, as I need it. Some of the labelling has rubbed off and it is taking quite a bit of time to be sure of what's what.

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Old 04-25-2020, 09:31 AM
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Default Very slow build II

Paul,
Thanks for posting the the "old school" method of a build !

I remember my excitement when i ordered my 2001 , 7A kit .. the clincher was
NO rivet holes to locate !!
I feel great respect for you "ole timers " and your perseverance .

I am headed to my shop today for social distancing and to do fiberglass stuff ..
Before the finish kit comes next month .

On-ward .. it will fly !!

Sam
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Old 04-26-2020, 06:40 AM
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Default Fly it will!

Good on you Sam, keep going! It will be a great achievement to fly, and there is also joy also in the building (even fibreglass for some?)
Cheers
Paul.
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