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Old 07-09-2019, 09:51 PM
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Well it's finallly time to do the canopy skirt dance. The plan all along was just to take the time to do a skirt for the whole shebang but I held up the aluminum side skirts and said "daaaaang those fit too good to throw away!"

Therefore, I started by putting the aluminum skirts on and painting the inside of them except where Sika will go just for a little extra. Then it was time to start taping things off for the rear skirt layup.

20190709_111537 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

Another picture or two of taping.

20190709_124105 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

As you can see in this next pic the tape gets a little saggy where the gap is. I put another tighter layer on and it seemed to help quite a bit. If I could do it again I might even consider putting some quick setting stuff over the first layer where the gap is and taping again.

Also, make a mental note of the side skirt and how well it fits the fuse and canopy.

20190709_124404 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

Remember that mental note you made? In the next pic it looks like the layup is really being pushed out by the side skirt. It is a little fatter there but for the most part the picture is playing tricks on you.

20190709_165326 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

Next up since I still had some time to play with I fabricated a couple of handles to rivet to the canopy for easier opening.

20190709_165315 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

Stay tuned for mass quantities of sanding.
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:18 AM
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Wow! Those side skirts fit awesome. Mine do not fit that snug to the side skin, despite all my efforts to remedy. I will have to work mine a bit more, there is a twist in the sidebar that under that compound bend was beyond effort to take out. So you think there was no way to do AL on the back Jereme?

How many layers are you applying to that rear area?
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Old 07-10-2019, 09:59 AM
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Looks Great! My side skirts were a nice tight fit too, but I wasted far too much time trying to get the rear ones to fit well. I even purchased a cheap english wheel thinking I could do some magic (Jesse James style). Should have done glass from the start.

Your build looks fantastic! That is going to be a heck of and RV!
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:26 AM
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Wow! Those side skirts fit awesome. Mine do not fit that snug to the side skin, despite all my efforts to remedy. I will have to work mine a bit more, there is a twist in the sidebar that under that compound bend was beyond effort to take out. So you think there was no way to do AL on the back Jereme?

How many layers are you applying to that rear area?
Interesting Kent, mine required very little tweaking on the sides. There is no way in heck I would even attempt to do metal on the rear. I'm sure it would be way harder to do with the Sika method as well since there is a fair amount of preload in the metal by the sounds of it. I know a guy here that did metal on his -6A and he described the torture it was to accomplish it. I went with four plies of 8.9 oz 8-harness satin found here.

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Looks Great! My side skirts were a nice tight fit too, but I wasted far too much time trying to get the rear ones to fit well. I even purchased a cheap english wheel thinking I could do some magic (Jesse James style). Should have done glass from the start.

Your build looks fantastic! That is going to be a heck of and RV!
Thanks for the compliments Dan! Ya doing it in metal never even crossed my mind. The only thing I used the metal for was a template to cut the glass haha. So did you end up going with glass in the end if I understand correct?
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Old 07-10-2019, 03:38 PM
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Jereme! you will be flying in no time! Great work all around.
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:16 PM
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Doing the glass as we speak :-) Well, not this very second but that is what I'm working on.

I ordered the new mount/nose gear and this is one of the bigger projects that I've been avoiding. I think by the time it gets here that will hopefully be one of the last remaining projects before she heads off to paint.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:11 PM
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Interesting Kent, mine required very little tweaking on the sides. There is no way in heck I would even attempt to do metal on the rear. I'm sure it would be way harder to do with the Sika method as well since there is a fair amount of preload in the metal by the sounds of it. I know a guy here that did metal on his -6A and he described the torture it was to accomplish it. I went with four plies of 8.9 oz 8-harness satin found here.



Thanks for the compliments Dan! Ya doing it in metal never even crossed my mind. The only thing I used the metal for was a template to cut the glass haha. So did you end up going with glass in the end if I understand correct?
How much glass will I need to do the rear skirt do you think Jereme?
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:49 PM
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Jereme! you will be flying in no time! Great work all around.
Thanks for the compliments! I sure do want to start flying this thing! Hopefully in less than a year.

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Doing the glass as we speak :-) Well, not this very second but that is what I'm working on.

I ordered the new mount/nose gear and this is one of the bigger projects that I've been avoiding. I think by the time it gets here that will hopefully be one of the last remaining projects before she heads off to paint.
Ya I hear ya, I ordered the new mount/nose gear as well and unless it ships relatively soon I think it is going to start holding me up. After the canopy which probably is only another week max, I was planning on putting her on gear and mounting the engine. Sounds like you're getting close if she is ready for paint!

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How much glass will I need to do the rear skirt do you think Jereme?
Kent my records on Spruce show that I ordered two yards of the 60" wide stuff. But honestly it was close man! With how cheap it is I would honestly order you up four or even five yards, this fabric has come in real handy on other stuff. I used a couple yards from another order already too on various things.
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Old 07-10-2019, 11:17 PM
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Fiberglass work continues on the rear skirt. First I popped it off and trimmed the edges. Don't do anything with that tape just yet though, more to do.

Tip: I'm not sure how you guys and gals are doing it but I have found that skipping any wax and PVA and laying up right on top of clear packing tape has always resulted in the EASIEST way to pop the fiberglass off (easier than when I used to use wax). Seriously the part releases so well it's satisfying to watch. However, disregard that comment if you are doing fiberglass in molds, different ballgame as I understand.

20190710_111626 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

After sanding the inside a bit and exposing any trapped air bubbles it was time to start doing a bit of filling. I had one section on the right side that got a little saggy. I filled this region with a flox mixture. You can see all the area I had to fill on the whole fairing, not too bad, just make sure to get that tape nice and tight! The valley was not very deep at all, I probably could of just used micro but why not go with flox.

20190710_111632 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

After doing some work around the doghouse area I put on a nice thick coat of micro on the whole fairing. Time for some sanding tomorrow.

20190710_180039 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

While I wait for epoxy to cure I figured I could work on the main gear. Glad I did as this does take a few hours to do. First bolt the brake flange on. I ordered shorter bolts and AN363 nuts as recommended by some on these forums to hold the brake bracket on. I figured I mind as well do this since first flight will probably be without wheel pants but who knows, I will cross that bridge when I get there.

20190710_181928 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

Next, mount the tires. Slap some tire talc in there and put things together. I can already tell that this is the part of the build that is going to get fun!

20190710_181922 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr

After packing and seating the bearings I got the axle nut set right per the Matco instructions and drilled the gear leg for the cotter pin. Drilling through that hard steel is a bear! Put the brakes back on and on to the next side.

20190710_201551 by Jereme Carne, on Flickr
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Old 07-11-2019, 09:14 AM
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What type if resin and such are you using? I am interested in getting it in the shop for later.
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