TomVal

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FAR 91.109 (a) No person may operate a civil aircraft that is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully functioning dual controls.

Is it legal to take dual instruction in a RV8? As you know, if you have the dual control mod, the rear cockpit does not have full rudder authority nor does it have rear brakes. The FARs imply that the -8 would not qualify for dual instruction because of the flight control setup.
 
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My insurance company said that I had to do m transition training in side by side RV, that I couldn't do the check out in my -8. Their claim was the dual controls.
 
Your insurance company...

FAR 91.109 (a) No person may operate a civil aircraft that is being used for flight instruction unless that aircraft has fully functioning dual controls.

Is it legal to take dual instruction in a RV8? As you know, if you have the dual control mod, the rear cockpit does not have full rudder authority nor does it have rear brakes. The FARs imply that the -8 would not qualify for dual instruction because of the flight control setup.

...may say otherwise, but this FAA document says quite specifically that dual brakes are not required...

http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/hgba.pdf

http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regdual.html

Might need AOPA membership to view the document/web page....

This came up last week with my flight instructor looking at a Bonanza he was in with a "fling-over" control yoke....:)

PS ...this would also be applicable to the side-by-side models that do not have the dual brake option...:)
 
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You can't see squat in the back seat

Aren't we missing the most obvious problem? In the rear seat of an 8(A) you can't see any of the panel. It seems to me that the lack of visibility would be more of a problem than brakes.
 
Doesn't matter if you can't see!!

Ever flown a Stearman or J3? Can't see from the back of them either.:eek: