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I don't think I have ever seen a slider RV4, is this because the do not have the slider canopy ?

Is that only an 8 option?

Thanks
 
I have seen a pickture (the old fashion thing, photo) of an rv-4 with slider. Or maybe it was a magazine?
 
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Slider

I've built 4 RV-4s, two had sliders, two had floppies. Much prefered the sliders.

Bryan Carr
 
Van's won't sell you a sliding canopy RV-4, but there was a beautiful example at Osh a few years ago

Pete


 
Hiya,

Just joined up and will start on my 4 shortly. Bryan, were the sliders difficult to incorporate? Did you (or has anyone) write up any notes or taken some photos?

I really prefer the look and functionality of the slider - especially if I ever had to get out after a rollover. The cool factor when taxiing is waaay up there too.


Mark
 
Just a thought - I'm building kit #105 of Mark Fredericks version of the RV4 (F1), and he sells a slider kit that works well and isn't too hard to fit.

Ron Graham
Sydney, Oz
 
I talked to a guy that built a 4 with a slider and he didn't like it because the foward canopy support was directly in his field of view. He changed from the floppy to the slider and said, he wished that he could go back to the floppy.
 
Where did you get your slider plans?

I've built 4 RV-4s, two had sliders, two had floppies. Much prefered the sliders.

Bryan Carr

Was it your own design? In an old thread somebody mentioned some plans from John Haeh. Did you use those or adapt something else? Could you send or post some pics? Come on, give us a hint!

I'm currently building my fuse and I'd much prefer a slider if I can figure out how to do it.

Anybody else have any suggestions? I was wondering how easy it would be to adapt an F1 slider. Anybody know?
 
RV-4 slider is on TRADE-A-PLANE

Saw an RV-4 slider on Trade-a-Plane this morning.
Seems this bird has many "big" items.. for $69K
 
RV-4 Slider canopy

I have a slider on my -4. I started with John Haehn's blueprints dated 1995. I believe Van's may have contact info for him.

I wanted a slider because I couldn't find a reliable way to lock my canopy partially open for ventilation on the ground, a requirement in AZ. Two friends had their latches fail and ended up with damage as a result. Since then I've seen some clever solutions to that which would have eliminated the reason to go through all the work/rework to get where I am now.

John called for a dorsal fin on which the canopy tracks rearward. The plane at OSH used the -8 track on the turtledeck which is a better idea, but was not available when I started.

My canopy is all metal and had to be redone to get the stiffness necessary to prevent the sides from bowing out in flight. I enlisted some warbird pros for that. They solved the problem, but some of the solution came straight from their SNJ/T-6 experience and the result was a weight gain, but I don't have an exact number. Probably avoidable, but I was so burned out on building (DR, I hope you won't ban me for that admission) I couldn't wait to hand it off to someone else at almost any cost.

Some considerations for your conversion based solely on my experience:

It was ALOT OF WORK!!!

The windshield extends 11.5" to the rear of the panel and that restricts ingress/egress to the front pit. At my size, not a problem, but one size might not fit all. My windshield is the F1 Rocket/raked racer model.

Access is also restricted to the rear pit by the forward edge of the canopy when it is at it's most rearward position. This also means you have to be more careful loading baggage.

The rollbar must be lowered so the canopy will clear as it slides rearward. I am short, but have still given up some rollover protection.

I do not fly with the canopy open. The airflow pushes the canopy closed, though latches or detents would solve that. Also, I do not trust the canopy to stay on the plane much above 80-90 kts. That is not because I feel the construction is weak. There is just alot of air pressure coming up under the canopy sides as they go straight back while the fuselage begins to taper.

That said, I like my slider. The forward vis difference is minor, in my opinion, and I sure don't sweat as much waiting to take off. These observations are purely personal and probably relate to my first aviation memories sitting in the F4U's my Dad used to fly for the Marines. A canopy bow and fixed windshield just seem "right". Maybe that's the reason my panel is steam gauges, though I fly glass professionally?!

I am headed for an overseas assignment, so my plane will be unpainted a bit longer, but I'll try to get some photos posted if I have time.

Jim Graham
 
Yes you can, Steve. I just caution my backseaters to hold onto the rollbar while entering and lowering themselves into the seat. It's easy to want to use both the canopy and rollbar until they get turned forward, but a simple caution and no problem. I don't haul really large people, though.

If I can find the photo post instructions, I'll be sure to include one with Sylvie getting in the back. Again, it is more restrictive than the stock deal, but not to a great degree.