Okay, first if this thread isn't appropriate for these forums can a moderator please let me know and I'll take it elsewhere.
I fly out of KCOD which is Cody Wyoming. This is a pretty hot (by our standards) airport for corporate jet activity due to it's proximity to Yellowstone and ranches. I have had two issues with Citations lately and want your opinion on what you would have done.
Scenario 1
So there I was flying with a buddy entering a midfield crosswind for runway 4 (no traffic in the pattern). Winds were calm on the AWOS also verified by the wind sock. As a local pilot here runway 4 is the preferred runway for landing if winds calm (notice the location of the hangars). As we are overflying the field I see a Citation taxiing faster than any other aircraft in my life to 22 (I still don't know why he taxied 8000 feet on calm winds). Now we are past our abeam spot and slowing down. The pilot literally asks where we are to which we reply left downwind runway 4 about to turn base. He then comes on the radio and announces his departure on 22. Well this situation seems easy as we have no real option other than to yield the right of way and curse him profusely while fighting the urge to not key the mic.
Here is a pic of the airfield and our positions. (note: he was not lined up on the runway yet)
q by Jereme Carne, on Flickr
Scenario 2 (two days later different Citation)
There I was again this time with my instructor in the same exact position abeam the numbers for runway 4 when a Citation announces 10 mile final for runway 22. Today however, the winds strongly favor runway 4. I tell him where we are in the pattern and that we are closed traffic thinking he would get the clue. Well he didn't... as I'm on base he announces 6ish mile final if I remember right. As I turn final I tell him I'll make this a full stop and get out of his way. My instructor was irritated at the other pilot for sure but I also think he was a little irritated that I gave the Citation a full stop as well (he has a few other stories as well of instances like this and is also tired of it). We exit the runway and the Citation lands right on cue in the opposing direction with a tailwind. We were never at an unsafe distance from the jet.
Needless to say I'm getting pretty tired of some of these corporate guys expecting us to yield to them. So, would you have handled things differently? I have no problem in giving the right of way but I'm sure getting tired of other pilots not following the right of way rules and simply expecting me to yield because they are faster. Also worth mentioning I have given the most recent 2 examples but this has happened more times than that.
Might of sounded like a rant but I really would like to learn how others handle these situations.
I fly out of KCOD which is Cody Wyoming. This is a pretty hot (by our standards) airport for corporate jet activity due to it's proximity to Yellowstone and ranches. I have had two issues with Citations lately and want your opinion on what you would have done.
Scenario 1
So there I was flying with a buddy entering a midfield crosswind for runway 4 (no traffic in the pattern). Winds were calm on the AWOS also verified by the wind sock. As a local pilot here runway 4 is the preferred runway for landing if winds calm (notice the location of the hangars). As we are overflying the field I see a Citation taxiing faster than any other aircraft in my life to 22 (I still don't know why he taxied 8000 feet on calm winds). Now we are past our abeam spot and slowing down. The pilot literally asks where we are to which we reply left downwind runway 4 about to turn base. He then comes on the radio and announces his departure on 22. Well this situation seems easy as we have no real option other than to yield the right of way and curse him profusely while fighting the urge to not key the mic.
Here is a pic of the airfield and our positions. (note: he was not lined up on the runway yet)
q by Jereme Carne, on Flickr
Scenario 2 (two days later different Citation)
There I was again this time with my instructor in the same exact position abeam the numbers for runway 4 when a Citation announces 10 mile final for runway 22. Today however, the winds strongly favor runway 4. I tell him where we are in the pattern and that we are closed traffic thinking he would get the clue. Well he didn't... as I'm on base he announces 6ish mile final if I remember right. As I turn final I tell him I'll make this a full stop and get out of his way. My instructor was irritated at the other pilot for sure but I also think he was a little irritated that I gave the Citation a full stop as well (he has a few other stories as well of instances like this and is also tired of it). We exit the runway and the Citation lands right on cue in the opposing direction with a tailwind. We were never at an unsafe distance from the jet.
Needless to say I'm getting pretty tired of some of these corporate guys expecting us to yield to them. So, would you have handled things differently? I have no problem in giving the right of way but I'm sure getting tired of other pilots not following the right of way rules and simply expecting me to yield because they are faster. Also worth mentioning I have given the most recent 2 examples but this has happened more times than that.
Might of sounded like a rant but I really would like to learn how others handle these situations.