Several months back, there was a rear pedal thread on the pros and cons etc. I had purchased the rear pedal kit from Van's and had started to install it. Chuck Miller (who had built an 8A which is now in Ausy land) came up with alternative to Van's kit. The purpose to do this was far less parts and wanting a map storage area on the right side at the forward console. With Vans rear pedal kit, you have to use the console cover supplied with the fuse kit because of its clearance issues. I don't proclaim for this to be as good as Van's set up from an engineering standpoint, but will work for me. I have the ground adjustable pedals, this would not work with the inflight adjustables (unless you don't adjust inflight with the rear pedals installed. For me, the rear pedals will not be installed the majority of the time. The brackets are from Van's rear pedal kit and are attacked with #8 screws and nutplates per kit plans. I drilled an additional hole in the rudder pedal assembly 1/2 inch above the holes where the cables are attached to. Parts used were 4130 tubing (3/8 O.D, .209 I.D), drilled and tapped for a 1/4-28 AN161-22L fork on one end and a AN970-6 area washer welded (thank you Jerry Scott) to the other end. The right assembly needs a bend to clear the forward right side baggage compartment wall. Just an idea.