"Hero" is a word that is thrown around alot lately, but the term "America's Greatest Generation" is not used enough.

Rest in piece General Tibbits, you have earned it.
 
I heard this wonderful man speak at Oshkosh a few years ago. That is a highlight beyond compare. Rest in peace, General. And thanks.

Bob Kelly
 
Enola Gay Pilot Dies at 92-Read This Great Interview

Enola Gay Pilot Paul Tibbets passed away yesterday at the age of 92. Take a few minutes to read this informative 2002 interview with Studs Terkel. His words about a third bomb, simultaneous bombing of Japan and Europe and his thoughts about nukeing terrorists are rivetting. Here is the link I borrowed from AVWEB.COM ( a GREAT Aviation site). Enjoy..
http://www.avweb.com/news/profiles/PaulTibbets_StudsTerkel_EnolaGayInterview_2002_196499-1.html
 
Never Met but I have the greatest respect for Him

When I was a young boy in 1945 the war had been going on for half of my life. When the news was spread around the playground that the war was over I created one of those moments in life that you never forget where you were and what you were doing.

Long since then I have visited Los Alamos and Trinity Site in New Mexico. Three books on my bookshelf make it clear that Paul W. Tibbets was a very special man:

Enola Gay by Gordon Thomas and Max Morgan Witts
Flight of the Enola Gay by Paul W. Tibbets
The Making of the Atomic Bomb by Richard Rhodes

Bob Axsom
 
Wendover Air Base

I was on a business trip near Salt Lake City a few years ago and had a few extra hours so I drove west on I-80 to Wendover. Most folks think of it as a casino town (barely in Nevada...actually Wendover is in Utah and West Wendover is in Nevada). Besides being near the Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover is home to what remains of Wendover Air Base. When I was there, two runways served as a general aviation airport ( http://www.airnav.com/airport/KENV ) , but the old buildings were still there and you could take a self-guided tour.

There is a historical group trying to raise donations to restore the old buildings. I made a small donation, but they need a lot more than what I could give. It's definitely worth a visit if you like to visit military history sites, and I believe it may be the last WWII air base with buildings still standing.

Don
 
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I was on a business trip near Salt Lake City a few years ago and had a few extra hours so I drove west on I-80 to Wendover. Most folks think of it as a casino town (barely in Nevada...actually Wendover is in Utah and West Wendover is in Nevada). Besides being near the Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover is home to what remains of Wendover Air Base. When I was there, two runways served as a general aviation airport ( http://www.airnav.com/airport/KENV ) , but the old buildings were still there and you could take a self-guided tour.

Back in 1990, we had a summer time airshow at Wendover, in which surviving crew members from both the Enola Gay & Bockscar were present.

I was able to talk a bit with Paul Tibbet's, Charles Sweeny & several others, as well as some pic signing.

I also lucked out a few years later when I decided to head to the Hill Air Force Base, Utah museum & happened on the Doolittle Raiders annual reunion. Picked up a lot of their sigs too.

IMO, a good war movie depicting the Wendover Air Base during the year leading up to the end of the war is "Above and Beyond" with Robert Taylor as Col. Paul Tibbets, and Eleanor Parker. It's not actually filmed at Wendover, but looks just as desolate.

L.Adamson
 
... and his thoughts about nukeing terrorists are rivetting.

Yep

Studs Terkel: One last thing, when you hear people say, "Let's nuke 'em," "Let's nuke these people," what do you think?

Paul Tibbets: Oh, I wouldn't hesitate if I had the choice. I'd wipe 'em out. You're gonna kill innocent people at the same time, but we've never fought a **** war anywhere in the world where they didn't kill innocent people. If the newspapers would just cut out the ****: "You've killed so many civilians." That's their tough luck for being there.

ahem...
 
Yep



ahem...

Although not politically correct (I doubt that General Tibbets was concerned about political correctness), this statement has to be taken in the context of a man fighting for the survival of his country in a global conflict, and applied to a situation that he saw as much of a threat as he faced in WW-2. Every rational person decries the loss of innocent life in times of conflict, whether it happens at the World Trade center, or on the battlefield. Winston Churchill had to make such a decision when he allowed the German bombing of Coventry during WW-2, rather then tip his hand on possession of Enigma. In that case, the innocent victims were his own people. General Tibbets was simply asserting a reality that modern day, politically correct apologists are loathe to admit, war does sometimes take innocent lives, but that in itself is not a good enough reason to concede defeat.
 
Although not politically correct (I doubt that General Tibbets was concerned about political correctness), this statement has to be taken in the context of a man fighting for the survival of his country in a global conflict, and applied to a situation that he saw as much of a threat as he faced in WW-2. Every rational person decries the loss of innocent life in times of conflict, whether it happens at the World Trade center, or on the battlefield. Winston Churchill had to make such a decision when he allowed the German bombing of Coventry during WW-2, rather then tip his hand on possession of Enigma. In that case, the innocent victims were his own people. General Tibbets was simply asserting a reality that modern day, politically correct apologists are loathe to admit, war does sometimes take innocent lives, but that in itself is not a good enough reason to concede defeat.

Actually - in this case (see article for context) he is referring to the present day - he is encouraging the idea of nuking the middle east in order to kill terrorists. It didn't sound like Churchill having to make a horrible choice, it sounded like blithe conclusions based on limited information.

A supremely short sighted view at best, and a war crime at worst.

Thus the 'alas' - I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but I felt I had to address the praise of these views.

;)
 
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Although not politically correct (I doubt that General Tibbets was concerned about political correctness), this statement has to be taken in the context of a man fighting for the survival of his country in a global conflict, and applied to a situation that he saw as much of a threat as he faced in WW-2. Every rational person decries the loss of innocent life in times of conflict, whether it happens at the World Trade center, or on the battlefield. Winston Churchill had to make such a decision when he allowed the German bombing of Coventry during WW-2, rather then tip his hand on possession of Enigma. In that case, the innocent victims were his own people. General Tibbets was simply asserting a reality that modern day, politically correct apologists are loathe to admit, war does sometimes take innocent lives, but that in itself is not a good enough reason to concede defeat.

Very good, thankyou...

L.Adamson
 
Paul Tibbets did not set policy....he carried out what others planned. Thank you Paul...and all of those like you who fought and fight to keep us free.

Swift Dave
 
The measure of a man

It is true that Paul Tibbets never set policy, and only carried out the orders of others.

He also 'never lost a night's sleep' over the mission he led, and participated in a reenactment of the event, complete with a 'little mushroom cloud'.

My father-in-law fought in the Phillipines in WW-II with the US Army. If you get enough drink into him, he will admit to having killed more than one of the enemy. He wound up getting shot and critically injured and almost died. It was only when he got into his 80's that he would talk about his wartime experiences, and when he did you could see the horror in his eyes. The taking of those soldiers lives was a burden that he carried for all of his life, even though it was something he absolutely had to do.

Paul Tibbets did what he was ordered to do. But I like to think that most people, if they had dropped a weapon that killed tens of thousands of people, would have missed a night or two of sleep. Or perhaps passed on the feel-good anniversary events.

Tibbets didn't, and I think this is a measure of the man.
 
Warriors

Some people are Warriors, some people are not.

IMHO: We owe our country's existence to our Warriors. That means from 1776 until today.

One Man's Opinion.
 
A little known historical nugget.
Wendover Nevada on the Utah/Nevada border, right near Bonneville Salt Flats, was where Tibbets and his crew trained for their mission. It is now a civilian airport. I haven't been there in 20 or so years, but it used to be that if you talked to one of the locals at the airport they would take you to the hanger where you could read messages written on the wall by Tibbets and his crew as they were leaving on their mission. I don't remember the messages, but vividly remember the strange feeling that came over me standing there and thinking about what they must have been thinking as they signed the wall right before leaving on their mission. They were then in the absolute middle of nowhere, but yet they had to have known that they were about to change the whole world forever.
 
Some people are Warriors, some people are not.

IMHO: We owe our country's existence to our Warriors. That means from 1776 until today.

One Man's Opinion.

Perhaps the best quote I have seen recently was on "Quicksilver" at the Gathering of Mustangs and Legends: "The bare metal on this P-51D is polished. Look closely into the metal. You will see for whom our veterans fought." Don't know how it could be better said. Paul was one of the best.

Bob Kelly