The FAA Motto
I keep my original medical certificate taped in the front of my log book and always make sure my log book is with me.
If I get ramp checked this will mean also showing my current log book.
What are the disadvantages/perils of this?
I don't want to get too nit-picky but this is important. A legitimate CPB border crossing check does operate under a different set of rules (as contrasted with what they were doing earlier in this year which generated much publicity) but it is still more akin to a traffic stop than not. As in, you are not free to leave, it is being conducted by people with badges, guns and the ability to deprive you of your liberty (ie. handcuffs, jail) and who are looking into potential criminal activities, not just FAA administrative violations.Very true, LE does not do "ramp checks" in the FAA sense. CBP does a "Border Search" when you arrive from, or depart to, a foreign location. This is a very different situation than a "traffic stop" with an entirely different set of rules.
Disadvantage:
You might not be current for passenger carrying. If your not, its a pretty simple check for the fed to find out if you hand over your book.
Advantage:
None
Disadvantage:
You might not be current for passenger carrying. If your not, its a pretty simple check for the fed to find out if you hand over your book.
Advantage:
None
It's a storage issue, the pilots certificate fits in my wallet, the original medical certificate doesn't seem to fit anywhere easily...
Advantage: Assuming you follow the law, you look like a cooperative pilot, and lessen the chance of a follow up visit.
not true, you are not required to have a logbook in your possession, nor are you required to produce it unless requested, and that can be at a later date.
the law states, "you have the right to remain silent", its the best piece of advice that you can take. never give the government more documentation than you are legally required to provide.
bob burns
RV-4 N82RB
But, if you have it in your hand because the medical certificate is taped to the inside cover do you have to show anything in it to the inspector?
OK,
Back to a previous question.
What's the best way to carry your original medical with you?
The Pilot's certificate fits in my wallet... but what to do with the medical cert...
There's something I'm not understanding here. I just got a new medical a few months ago and after folding twice, it fits in the slot in my wallet right behind my pilot certificate like it always has.
What am I missing?
I keep everything in my logbook. And I always fly with my logbook.
There's something I'm not understanding here. I just got a new medical a few months ago and after folding twice, it fits in the slot in my wallet right behind my pilot certificate like it always has.
What am I missing?
I have to jump in once more here... and from experience, not from the theoretical constitutional lawyer perspective.
Yes, you can remain silent. And by doing so, you create an adversarial situation. I am not suggesting that you incriminate yourself. Just answer their simple questions. If it goes beyond that, you might want to advise them you are done conversing. Trust me, the FAA will look at you in a more cooperative, and constructive light... if you are reasonable. If you play lawyer right off the bat, you will then be paying twice. Once for their lawyers and again for yours.
(you don't have anything to hide..... correct?)
Bear in mind, nearly everything we possibly do these days is caught on camera.. or recorded from the the radio.
I was ramp checked at The Air Force Museum in Dayton, Oh.. I was in my L-19 and the inspector walked up to my airplane and ask for the paper work. I asked him for his 110A or his badge and he didn't have one. I told him to get away from my airplane, as far as I was concerned he was a terrorist. His supervisor was about 10 ft. behind him. If you have someone with proper credentials I will show them to that inspector. ALWAYS, ALWAYS ASK FOR AN I.D. This worked out well and I bet that new inspector never forgets to show his identification.
All you need in the plane is AROW.
Airworthiness
Registration
Operating Limitations
Weight and balance
All you need as Pilot is your license, a photo ID, and current medical if required.
They can ask for what they want, but you aren't required to carry them.
And (since this IS a Vans Forum) THE OPERATING LIMITATIONS...which I need to find a good place to stash them in the aircraft.
Now that we have a Basic Med and the copy is in your logbook, I assume we don't need to keep that in the aircraft.
Jerry
I switched to Basic Med this year, and the "certificate" is attached to my logbook, which I don't carry in the plane. That info is online, though, so the FAA (or anyone) could check. I carry my Repairman's Certificate in the plane.
Since the repairmans certificate is only needed for the annual condition inspection, there seems little reason to carry it around with you.
Unless you need to do maintenance on the road somewhere, and a "do-gooder" tries to interfere...
OK, well, you may know that. I may know that. The local A&P who is irate enough to come over while you are pulling a major component off of your plane may not. It may at least be enough to get someone to pay attention to what reasons you may have for doing something (s)he may think is a violation. Just thinking out loud here.Repairman certificate has nothing to do with maintenance.
Only required for the condition inspection.
So would it be "legal" for me to...say...change a propeller on my aircraft without a Repairman's Certificate?Since the repairmans certificate is only needed for the annual condition inspection, there seems little reason to carry it around with you.
So would it be "legal" for me to...say...change a propeller on my aircraft without a Repairman's Certificate?
Anybody know for sure about shrinking and laminating, or does it depend on who you ask in the FAA??
Yep! Just follow you operating limitations. You must place the aircraft back into phase I for testing if the replacement is not the same make and model as the one removed.
And submit a new 8130-6 to FAA if changing of a fixed pitch from or to a controllable propeller.
The easiest solution is to just keep your required documents in a zip-loc bag, and keep that in a pocket in the plane. It protects them and leaves them easily accessible for inspection. Airworthiness, registration, and any not often used cheat sheets for avionics are in mine.
Well, strictly speaking, I think the A/W certificate is supposed to be visible.
Yep! Just follow you operating limitations. You must place the aircraft back into phase I for testing if the replacement is not the same make and model as the one removed.
And submit a new 8130-6 to FAA if changing of a fixed pitch from or to a controllable propeller.
Yep! Just follow you operating limitations. You must place the aircraft back into phase I for testing if the replacement is not the same make and model as the one removed.
And submit a new 8130-6 to FAA if changing of a fixed pitch from or to a controllable propeller.
Wee detail (of which I'm sure Mel is aware); Many of the older operating limitations out there (like those issued in the 90's for example) included a requirement to inform the FAA and receive a response prior to resuming flight after a "major change". Most assumed it meant a letter to your local FSDO (and a wait for a written response), but there was confusion/variation all around. The provision was removed from later wording, but if it is in yours, well, as Mel said....just follow your operating limitations.
8130-6.... would that apply to going from a Ground adjustable whirlwind to a Catto?
My original ops limits didn?t provide the ability to fly IFR. Called up the FSDO, sent in the paperwork and had new docs in 2 weeks. Painless process for anyone else interested in updating theirs.
50+ years...never been ramp checked, although I did have a buddy several years ago who was an FAA safety inspector.
Do those guys have to provide credentials? I'd be pretty reluctant to let someone go through my paperwork unless I was certain of their bona fides....