Yes - but there there is often radio-less aircraft at our field so a good lookout is essential.
Jim Sharkey
Yes, I gave flight instruction to a deaf student (eventually) pilot. He could hear perfectly fine. The FAA gave him a LODA for his disability.
If he could hear perfectly fine , must not have been deaf !
And yes 90% of the time , 100% on short final .
Yes - can't remember how many times that pattern is quiet until I make my call, then suddenly someone else is there!
Yes, at least 5 out depending on speed, all legs, be succint (brevity & clarity), and please don't say "any traffic in the pattern please advise"
Don
Everywhere but here at home. The antelope don't monitor unicom.
I wonder why this is a problem ?? Can't count the number of times I've received answers to this question from aircraft that had not previously announced their arrival or departure.
this is a problem ?? Can't count the number of times I've received answers to this question from aircraft that had not previously announced their arrival or departure.
this is a problem ?? Can't count the number of times I've received answers to this question from aircraft that had not previously announced their arrival or departure.
Answer: yes.
Comments:
1. Please include the airport name in your calls. Even though there are more frequencies available these days than 122.8, it drives me crazy to hear someone announce "downwind for runway 30" and I cannot find him, only to figure out that he is at another airport 50 miles away. Side note: the multiple frequencies increase the chance that someone is on the wrong one. Keep looking!
2. IFR approaches: please do not say "5 miles out on the vor alpha Tracy". Half or more of the pilots in the pattern will have no idea where you are. Say "5 miles east of Tracy"
3. The "anyone around please advise" drives me crazy, as does idle chatter discussing the restaurant food. Again, you may be blocking communications at another airport some distance away.
...please don't say "any traffic in the pattern please advise"...
How this crept into our jargon I do not know - but it's painful to listen to. Maybe there ought to be a fine.
"Over and out."
Dan
How this crept into our jargon I do not know - but it's painful to listen to. Maybe there ought to be a fine.
"Over and out."
Dan
Isn't this a catch-22 question? How would I know I was the only one in the pattern, if I did not announce myself?...
You listen for others when they make their position reports... Then you know. For you to jump on frequency and essentially "demand" that others make a position report for your benefit is at best, rude. The other people may have just made their position reports 5 seconds before you joined the party, but now have to repeat them just for you?
You listen for others when they make their position reports... Then you know. For you to jump on frequency and essentially "demand" that others make a position report for your benefit is at best, rude. The other people may have just made their position reports 5 seconds before you joined the party, but now have to repeat them just for you?
Now, If you are on the 45 for the downwind, and some other guy is closed traffic turning downwind ( potential conflict), he will most certainly respond to your position report without the redundant "any other traffic..." Further, if another guy is on short final, what value is HIS report to you? He'll be at the gas pumps before you turn final. The point is, if we all make our position reports, it will become obvious what the traffic situation looks like. The demand to advise from every newcomer is redundant and clogs up the frequency.