RV7Guy said:....
This provides a short run for the coax, and the nearly 3' desired, (but not completely necessary) separation.
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az_gila said:Darwin... the Manufacturer differs with your assessment on this, and the Transponder System is one of the few items on our Experimentals that has to be TSO'd - or a proven equivalent. Your TRACON test does not meet a test to the full compliance with the TSO requirements....![]()
gil in Tucson
Mel said:Normally 18" is enough. QUOTE]
Hi Mel,
Just repeating your quote. Not trying to dispute what you said.
Mel said:WAIT!!! Back up. I never said that 18" separation was sufficient. What I said was that the distance between the transponder and transponder antenna, 18" usually enough to prevent feed back into the transponder.
My rule of thumb on antenna separation is: "Nothing should be closer to an antenna than the length of the antenna." i.e., a 24" long antenna should be at least 24" away from another antenna. Even this is not precise, but it is a fair rule of thumb.
Your 31" of separation should be OK in my opinion.
Comm antenna right between your legs next to the spar. You can reach down and plug in your handheald. Splices (extra connections) are NOT good in the system.RV7Guy said:Trying to work smarter not harder, I mounted the comm antenna just in front of the spar in outer most bay of the fuselage. The Transponder antenna (Garmin 330S) mirrored on the other side. This provides a short run for the coax, and the nearly 3' desired, (but not completely necessary) separation. A little more difficult with the "A" model.
I occasionally confirm everything is working great with my neighbor who is a Tracon controller at Phx Sky Harbor. He is building a 7A and put the antennas in the same location.
No issues in 200 hours.
Mel said:You're right of course, Gil. The transponder and ELT are TSOd items, and as such are subject to the manufacturer's installation procedures. If the installation instructions show this as a requirement, then it needs to be adhered to. "Rules of thumb" are overridden by TSOs.
SteinAir said:True enough, except not every word in every install manual is gospel. Many just have "recommendations" in them for certain things. Sometimes, the manuals aren't perfect, and of course can rarely take into account the huge variation between airframes, construction materials (composit, metal, tube/fabric, etc..), interconnected components, so on and so forth. Also, just because the manaul for component "X" says to keep "X a certain distance from Y", doesn't mean that the manual for "Y" may agree with that. It's one thing to take an individual component by itself, but it's quite another when taking things as a group of components or entire system. There are a lot of things that when done as a single component are done a certain way, but when used in a congolmeration are handled in a different way.
Not that this has anything in particular to do with antennas, as the original poster asked....spacing between the actual txpdr and antenna should be adhered to. Same goes for minimal lengths of GPS coax's (which just won't work if they are too short).
Just my 2 cents as usual (with my antennas mounted exactly like Mel's),
Stein.