Op Limits have to be noted in log book. Log book missing?
Hslightnin said:
Hello all
Im about to by a RV-4
this will be the first time ive bought a plane.
I had a pre buy done by a RV guy and he said there aren't any operation limitations to be found in the paper work
the owner has passed away and the family is selling the plane.
so my question is can I copy somebody else's or do i need the originals and if they are long gone what do I need to do.
Thanks
Rob
Are you saying there is not airframe log book with notation of what operation limits have been approved (by the builder).
Usually when you build a plane test and note the Op Limits in the log book; Op limits are stall, Vne, aerobatic maneuvers and so on. I am not sure, but I don't think 8130-7 (Airworthiness Certificate) has that? I could be wrong. It might say day night VFR, but no acro.
I think you can put the plane into Phase I with your local FISO coordination. Start another log book and do your on "operational limitation" notations in the new log book. You want to take it to Vne, do aerobatics, stall series. You note that in the log book if I am not mistaken: Loop, rolls, stalls, spins, etc... Once that is done the "operational limits" are approved and you can put it back into phase II (can take passengers and leave a restricted test area). If it does not note Day or night, VFR/IFR, you need to verify it meets the respective Regs, proper instruments and lights as required. It really is just you noting the limits and writing your name, pilot # down and signing it (I think).
It makes sense that you can't take passengers and fly to Vne until you have flown it there and noted it was checked. Same with acro. You can't take passengers for a loop until it has been done and noted. If you want a wing over, you hae to do it and note it.
Hope that helps George