Anyone put one of these in a RV? Have one in my Luscombe, and am totally sold on them.
Anyone put one of these in a RV? Have one in my Luscombe, and am totally sold on them.
Anyone put one of these in a RV? Have one in my Luscombe, and am totally sold on them.
If we're talking about C-GNDY, it was a tri-gear airplane and I don't think it was much more than a year old.
It would only be added cost, more work, and weight in the tail. It is a solution to a problem that does not exist on the RV.
For more than 12.5 years and 2,358 flying hours, I have been moving my RV-6 around with the tail that is already on the airplane. Yes I pick the tailwheel off the ground using the horizontal stab. No ill effect.
This would be a relief to know if it was very bad luck. Such a thing that we can not prepare for in advance, like being hit by a meteor or a goose or swan, would be understandable and part of the acceptable risk we all take. Kind of like hitting a deer on the highway.... It really sounds like a case of very bad luck...
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I remember the Rocket accident that you're talking about. Ever since then I make it a practice to always look for this part on projects that I TC.When I heard about this earlier accident, I looked at my RV10 and there is nothing specified in the plans at this location so I added a piece of angle here. There was nothing tying the 2 parts together on the -10 like on other RVs.
There was a VS failure in a Rocket a number of years ago which was traced to the angle doubler attaching the stab deck to the fuse/ fin post rear bulkhead never being installed apparently. The TSB might want to confirm this part was installed.
When I heard about this earlier accident, I looked at my RV10 and there is nothing specified in the plans at this location so I added a piece of angle here. There was nothing tying the 2 parts together on the -10 like on other RVs. Of course the -10 is not aerobatic but it does have a very tall fin. It just looks right having the angle piece installed from a structural point of view.
As a word of caution, snap rolls put huge a loading on the fin. Not sure how many people might do these in RVs but...
Well,
I received the answer that I sort of expected. Patience will be required I suppose.
Flight load is pretty much equal to entire surface, but pushing down on it by hand is concentrating the load is one small area.
Well,
I received the answer that I sort of expected. Patience will be required I suppose. At least they answered... hopefully, the wait will not be too long.
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Correct me if I'm wrong...
The structure doesn't know the difference between air loads and human-hand loads...
Correct me if I'm wrong - but from a physics perspective it occurs to me that on each and every takeoff, the HS is generating sufficient downward force to lift the nosewheel, and that force is generated from air loads on the HS and elevators. The structure doesn't know the difference between air loads and human-hand loads. If that loading was a "bad thing" we would be cycle-limiting the tail life.
I have the habit of moving my -6 around by standing in front of the empenage and pushing it backwards using the leading edges of the VS and HS. These are way sturdier on a Van's than anything else I have flown but I'm sure that this practice applies more load than they ever see in flight and have wondered if it could cause damage that might eventually lead to an inflight failure.
How do others maneuver their Van's tail draggers on the ground?
Jim Sharkey
RV-6
This is a really clever idea! Pull on the rope to move left/right/back, pull on the prop to move forward.My simple low cost tool for maneuvering my tail dragger is a 5 ft rope and wood handle (like on a small engine starter rope). I loop the rope on the tail wheel spring and pull it around with ease. Wrap the rope up and it takes less space in the plane than a can of Coke.
My simple low cost tool for maneuvering my tail dragger is a 5 ft rope and wood handle (like on a small engine starter rope). I loop the rope on the tail wheel spring and pull it around with ease. Wrap the rope up and it takes less space in the plane than a can of Coke.
To answer the original thread question, the Transportation Safety Board of Canada accident report on Vans RV-7A C-GNDY is available.
The web link is a bit long to post.
Google search "C-GNDY" and it should appear as [PDF] AVIATION INVESTIGATION REPORT A10O0018 IN-FLIGHT ...
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http://www.bst-tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2010/a10o0018/a10o0018.pdf
I have never read such a through accident report. The US NTSB does not produce anything close to this report.
Thank you for sharing.