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04-05-2013, 04:20 PM
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Facet Fuel Pump
In looking at the instructions for wiring installation of the faucet solid state electronic fuel pump (RV-8), the instructions strongly recommend installing an oil pressure switch in conjunction with fuel pump??? This concept confuses me a bit. I have a oil pressure switch tied in to the hobbs meter and a red low oil pressure light indicator. Is this that important to install with fuel Pump?
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04-05-2013, 04:44 PM
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The idea is if the engine looses oil pressure, the fuel flow is shut off, thus preventing major damage by running the engine without oil.
This is for an aircraft without a mechanical fuel pump of course.
I would suggest if you do this, that you put in an override switch, as there are times where it may be nice to have the option to totally trash the engine and make it to a safe landing area, not being forced to accept whatever fate serves up.
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04-05-2013, 05:11 PM
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.... It is also intended to stop the fuel flow in the event of an engine stoppage, as in a crash or flip over situation. Allan... 
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04-05-2013, 06:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TerryWighs
In looking at the instructions for wiring installation of the faucet solid state electronic fuel pump (RV-8), the instructions strongly recommend installing an oil pressure switch in conjunction with fuel pump??? This concept confuses me a bit. I have a oil pressure switch tied in to the hobbs meter and a red low oil pressure light indicator. Is this that important to install with fuel Pump?
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The way you verify the Facet pump is functioning properly is to switch it on prior to engine start and make sure it develops rated fuel pressure. You then turn it off and start the engine with the mechanical pump which verifies its proper operation.
How ya gonna do this when the Facet is wired through an oil pressure switch?
Don't wire the Facet pump via an oil pressure switch. You want only a simple on-off toggle switch that is wired to the aircraft bus. An indicator light for the Facet pump is a nice touch, however.
Last edited by Sam Buchanan : 04-05-2013 at 06:51 PM.
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04-05-2013, 07:01 PM
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Adding fuel to the fire...
Allan is right. This is more about a running fuel pump in a crash than saving an engine.
A push-button bypass would allow pre-flight check.
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04-05-2013, 07:29 PM
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Sam is right. Your pre-crash checklist should include killing the master switch and that takes care of the fuel pump too. If you don't see the crash coming.....well too bad.
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04-05-2013, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by comfortcat
Allan is right. This is more about a running fuel pump in a crash than saving an engine.
A push-button bypass would allow pre-flight check.
Dkb
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There may be some pumps wired through an oil pressure switch, but in the 15 years I've been associated with RVs I have never seen one. Haven't seen it recommended or discussed on any RV forums, either...until now.
I doubt it is the norm with certificated aircraft. The only time I've seen fuel pumps wired via an oil pressure switch is in race cars. You usually don't have time to switch off the master before the car gets rekitted.......
Last edited by Sam Buchanan : 04-05-2013 at 08:29 PM.
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04-05-2013, 08:28 PM
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Thanks Sam, You get what I am talking about. It is my understanding that the faucet pump does not run continuous after start up procedure and that the mechanical pump on the engine draws the fuel. Does anyone turn the faucet pump on and leave it on as an auxillary during takeoff and landing??? Regarding precrash list.....that is what the fuel cut off valve is for, as well as turning off Master. Instructions that came with the pump still make no sense at all???
Last edited by TerryWighs : 04-05-2013 at 08:37 PM.
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04-05-2013, 08:31 PM
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Sam: Your mention of car racing is probably the answer. There is reference to installing on cars as well, in the instructions. I bought this pump through Vans.
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04-05-2013, 09:04 PM
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....I actually always use my boost pump for take offs, landings and go a rounds. The number one issue with power losses is fuel starvation and this is a little extra, easy insurance. Allan... 
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