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Old 04-22-2013, 02:29 PM
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Default Day 17: We have arrived to Grenada from Bonaire!

I have a few minutes while Jailbird/Keys check in to the hotel and wanted to let you all know we are safe on the ground at Grenada Flight time was 3:00.

Our routing was actually IFR way points to vector us through Venezuelan airspace. We started out at 7500', then 9500', 11500' and even 13500' for less than 30 minutes

The descent into Grenada had us, at one point, at 1000' over the ocean due to cloud coverage over the island but it all worked out. We'll be here two (2) nights, and I have a morning Dive planned with Keys.

Sharkbait is still trying to get out of Brazil, and we MAY see him tomorrow (Tuesday). Opie & e-Stitch are on their own till they get back to SoCAL, and I believe they were going to St. Lucia.

Thanks again to all who tracked us today (at work no less), and I'll check back later with more details! Rosie & Tuppergal
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Old 04-22-2013, 03:01 PM
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Our routing was actually IFR way points to vector us through Venezuelan airspace. We started out at 7500', then 9500', 11500' and even 13500' for less than 30 minutes
Rosie, if you did actually get into Venezuelan airspace you should check to see if they in fact charged you for the transition. We have been navigating around Venezuelan airspace because it is very difficult to pay the fees. They aren't expensive, they just don't respond to correspondence. Something you don't want to get surprised on later. Sounds like a heck of a trip! Great Read!!!
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Old 04-22-2013, 05:47 PM
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Rosie, you rock man. Keep us posted!

What do you need for entry? Passport or $$$$.
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Old 04-23-2013, 08:07 AM
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Rosie,

Thanks for your help with the preparation details and paperwork that we needed for the trip. Sorry that Robin and I missed you on Grand Turk. We had a great time with the remaining RV folks though.

After leaving Grand Turk on Tuesday, we headed to Exuma to clear customs with the rest of group and then off to Nassau as a single ship to stay for the rest of the week on Paradise Island. What a great experience!

A few thoughts about the procedures that might help folks on future trips:

- I filed IFR for both legs (inbound/outbound) across the ADIZ. This seemed to make things pretty easy since we were already talking with controllers and didn't need to contact FSS to open flight plans, get squawk, look up frequencies, etc. I made the international part of the trip transparent and I recommend this method for any IFR rated pilots.

- I called US customs at KFPR on Saturday to let them know I would arrive on Sunday at 10am when they opened. No problems and I beat the rush that they said was coming. Apparently, most people wait until 10am to call and then arrive around noon. This helped avoid some weather and get us back to NC by 3pm.

- Customs in the Bahamas and Turks were great. No issues whatsoever and the pre-planning/paperwork that you prompted was great. We literally had smiling customs people meet us at the plane or door with all paperwork filled out and stamp ready for the passport. The US customs in KFPR went really smooth as well. They asked for a passport and we filled out the normal customs declaration sheet. No airplane/pilot paperwork was requested. They didn't even check our luggage. In and out in 5 min.

International Flight Plans - I used both Duats and Foreflight for flight plans during the trip and had no issues with acceptance from the controllers. Ran into a few issues getting Duats to accept the flight plan due to small typos or equipment on board. Apparently if it isn't perfect Duats will kick it back with little explanation. Foreflight seemed to take anything, but there were obviously missing sections on the flight plan such as safety gear onboard. It went through though.

Thanks again for all your help getting us in on the trip at the last minute. I doubt that I would have ever done something like this without someone like you blazing the path ahead. Truly a bucket list item.

From Rosie: Thanks for checking in Greg and glad you could make the trip to join the group the day after we left. One thing we've learned for Duats/Duat is that we were unable to use it to file for 'foreign airport to foreign airport'. Also, I want everyone to have the chance to join us on these trips thus all who fly with me will fly VFR. I've not yet had anyone ask to fly IFR.
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:28 PM
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Default Day 17: We have arrived to Grenada from Bonaire!

Hi to our RV Family of Friends! It's just after 2030 EDT, and everyone is eating (I wasn't hungry).

Our Monday (April 22) started with everyone checking out (Keys/I to the Dive shop also), and the cab was driving away ~0840 for the ~15 minutes drive to the airport:



After walking upstairs to file our GenDecs and Flight plan, the counter lady handed us back our flight plans and said, "You cannot fly direct to Grenada, then handed us somebody else's flight plan (an old one) and said, "Make yours look like this". Here's what it showed on the GPS once I entered it:



Great Circle distance was 381nm and the routing above was direct:
LRS (VOR)
TOROP
KOMPU
SIRAS
MTA (VOR)
OSTRA
DAREK
PERGA
TGPY (Grenada)



The great circle for this was 413nm, not a big deal. As we are filing, a (Dutch?) speaking pilot overheard us as we were not sure if we could pass through the Venezuelan airspace (for whatever reason). We had already decided if they said no, we would turn around and go back to Bonaire, to Santo Domingo and backtrack...but the Dutch guy asked,

"Have you flown that routing before"....

"No, this our first time"...

"Then your plane (N number) is not in the system and you don't owe them money. You go."...

"Ok, we'll head that way, thank you!"

We had several of the rampees taking pictures as we got ready. They thought our 'little planes' were the smallest to ever land in Bonaire.

Here's Jailbird & Indira, Keys & Tuppergal ready to go:





Leaving the coast of Bonaire:



Over the nose is the first cloud deck we climbed out over less than 10 minutes out. We leveled at 9500':



Routing and nearest airports (all Venezuelan). I saw the 'danger warning' so many times that I just ignored them. To me, I could here (for you older folks like me), "Danger Will Robinson...Danger...Danger":





Here's the next deck...up to 11500':

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:28 PM
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Default Day 17: We have arrived to Grenada from Bonaire!

And just when we thought we were done climbing.... here we are heading up to 13500' (and I'm not going any higher!):



Once over the top, we dropped down to 9500', but when the Venezuelan controller got hold of us, they had to separate us so we didn't run into each other. I tried to 'plead' my case for safety but, short version is: Jailbird (lead) at 9500', Keys at 11500' and me at 13500'..."I don't think so Tim". I told the controller "Unable due to negative oxygen in the plane, request 9500". Back and forth we go since their English is not so good and I finally get 9500'. I did not see Jailbird or Keys until we landed on Grenada.

Lots of nothing over the ocean so I listed to my nanopod and Tuppergal read her Kindle. I watched gauges too :-)

Upon arriving to Grenada, I had to do some 360s so as not to 'jump' Keys and Jailbird into the pattern (then found out they had NO radar). We had to pick our way through this:



Once under, we could finally see the airport:





We have arrived to Grenada! Flight time was 3:00.





This is a FedEx pilot on the left and our 'handler' Dubai with the 'very happy pilots':







Here's Keys checking in at the True Blue Bay Resort:



After dinner, which ended at ~1900, we went back to the room...and Tuppergal tells me I was snoring by 0715...long day...glad it's behind us...a little stress...poor communication with the controllers, clouds, can't see my 'team', Venezuelan airspace. All is OK because we are here (in these little planes called RVs!)

Ah, almost forgot.... Sharkbait landed Grenada late afternoon and arrived to the hotel around 1700. Opie & e-stitch flew to St. Lucia, and we should see them on Wednesday. They both had quite the story to tell of their flight below the equator!!!!

I slept soundly and woke up, well rested, at 0800 the next day....

Keep poundin' them rivets because it's ALL worth it! Rosie & Tuppergal
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Old 04-23-2013, 07:29 PM
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Default Day 18: A day in Grenada

It's Day 18, and we have a FULL day on the island!

Here's how my day: Up at 0800, breakfast (cereal) then dive boat by 0845, 2-tank dive, back by 1300, hang by the pool with Keys, nap at 1400, up at 1700 (must still be beat), flight planning with the group for Wednesday (heading to St. Lucia), dinner at 1900, update this webpage starting after 2000 and I was in bed by 2230....

Here's Tuppergal, Jailbird & Indira's day went: They met at 0900 to meet with their driver Kennedy who was to drive them on their all-day 'Island Tour'.

This is a breadfruit tree. This fruit was a main staple (food) given to the slaves.



This is the oldest Catholic Church on Grenada, and it was heavily damaged during one the recent hurricanes (still under reconstruction):



This is Fort George:



This is the Concord's Falls, one of about six waterfalls on Grenada:



One of the few cannons still in-place:



Here's the inside of a Nutmeg Factory. These are the drying racks:



The nuts dumped into this 'sifter' and removes the outer skin (mace: another spice) and then runs down another 'trough' where they are 'graded':



This is the grading area where the nuts are hand-sorted then bagged:





Here's a picture from the cafe overlooking Duquesne Bay:

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Here's where the Islanders decided to 'end it all' rather than surrender to European rule:



Normally, you see ruins of Sugar Plantations...here's a real, WORKING, Rum factory on the grounds of an old Sugar Plantation:



Here's the water falling onto the paddle wheel...



...that turns the gears for the pressing machine:



Distilling the cane sugar mixture:





Tuppergal was trying to figure out how to get this Potcake sovenier home:



The next Island-tour stop was the Cocoa Factory. Here's where the cocoa seeds are fermenting (for a couple of weeks):



Then the seeds are dried on these inside tracks on rainy days. Tupperal is 'walking' the seeds to mix them up:



Here are the drying tracks used outside for sunny days:

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Old 04-23-2013, 07:53 PM
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Still watching intently!

Ha! Didn't you know, IFR Direct simply isn't allowed

From Rosie: I know this now!

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Rosie here...hijacking Scoot's thread so I can continue the pictures from Grenada :-)

Here's the original Grenada airport called Pearl's Airport back in the day. It's now used as drag strip (with Grandstands) and grazing cattle:





Anybody know what plane this is?



Here's a river in the rain forest:



Driving out of the rain forest back to St. George's Town:



We'll be departing in the morning for St. Lucia after doing some Island-hopping ourselves!

Keep poundin' them rivets because it's ALL worth it! Rosie & Tuppergal
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Old 04-24-2013, 07:13 AM
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Default Day 19: Island Hopping from Grenada to St. Lucia

Hi to our RV Family of Friends!

Wednesday (April 24) started out with an awesome rainbow that followed a morning squall:



Jailbird/Indira/Keys wanted to sleep in and fly direct to St. Lucia so it was just Sharkbait joining Tuppergal/me on my one day of "Island-hopping". Here's a picture of Sharkbait:
He flew his RV below the Equator, WOWEEE!!!!



One thing different from America is that you call the tower prior to engine start andrequest engine start so once 'blessed', we fired up the planes and did our runups in front of the terminal (we took an intersection takeoff):



Tuppergal was able to get a nice picture of the True Blue Bay resort which was just off the departure end of the runway:



One last look at the Grenada airport (TGPY):



As is the case in the islands, the clouds are thicker in the morning and we had a little bit of cloud-dodging getting away from Grenada:



This small mountain island is just of the northwest coast of Grenada:



Here's the first island we landed, Carriacou (TGPZ), 34nm (~15 minutes) from Grenada:





Landing fees were about $11 and Immigration/Customs were about the same and took maybe 15 minutes (small island, not lots of traffic except for the Twin Otter commuters).

This small island (sandbar) is located in the bay right next to the Carriacou airport:

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