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Old 08-02-2006, 08:50 PM
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Default Pressure recovery Wheel Pants

Catchy name but I am confused as to what it means and the physics behind it.

Can someone explain (in small words) exaxctly what pressure recovery means relative to wheel pants.
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Old 08-03-2006, 08:36 AM
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Fundamentally, it means the shape is designed to minimize flow separation on the downstream side of the fairing. Minimum form drag occurs if laminar (non-separated) flow can be maintained along the entire surface of any body moving though the air.
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What happened to the small words

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What happened to the small words

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It is shaped so that the air sticks to it better!
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less drag.

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Old 08-03-2006, 10:55 AM
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LOL - That was sorta tongue in cheek but thanks for the replies - makes more sense now to this non-engineer !!

My understanding is that these are smaller and tighter fitting - any issues with grass or unimproved strips?

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Old 08-03-2006, 11:20 AM
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LOL - That was sorta tongue in cheek but thanks for the replies - makes more sense now to this non-engineer !!

My understanding is that these are smaller and tighter fitting - any issues with grass or unimproved strips?

T.
I just replaced my old-style RV-6 pants with the newer PR pants, and the new ones are most assuredly not smaller! I was actually surprised at the improved performance because the new ones look so much larger than the old ones.

There's a side-by-side comparison here:

http://n466pg.blogspot.com/2006/06/t...-my-pants.html

Tight fit is up to you. I trimmed mine such that I don't have to worry about tire rubbing if the tire pressure is a little low. I have heard, though, that the newer ones can collect grass and stuff back behind the wheel. I haven't had that happen, but I haven't been flying with the new ones very often yet.
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:45 AM
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I just replaced my old-style RV-6 pants with the newer PR pants, and the new ones are most assuredly not smaller! I was actually surprised at the improved performance because the new ones look so much larger than the old ones.

There is actually a noticeable difference in performance between the two styles?
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There is actually a noticeable difference in performance between the two styles?
They say there is, but my only real measurement I have is between no pants and PR pants. The old pants got a little, uh, worn during my TW transition, so I've left them on the work bench for quite awhile. The difference between no pants and PR pants has been unscientifically measured as 9 knots on a 150hp RV-6.
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:01 AM
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Default History of these things

I'm trying to remember... did the PR wheelpants start out as some team rocket option and then Van's picked them up?
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