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Old 02-28-2013, 06:03 PM
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Default Pitot Tube help

Had to repair a fuel seep and ended up taking the left tank off. Decided to check the wing interior while I had the tank out. My pitot tube is mounted through the leading edge of the left wing 2 ribs outboard of the tank (I didn't build it). My static ports (2) are on each side of the fuselage behind the baggage compartment.



The pitot tube is a threaded rod that mounts into a bracket riveted to a rib. The part that confuses me is why 2 air lines are mounted on the bracket. I traced one of the lines all the way up into the cockpit directly to the airspeed indicator. The other one terminates (cut) just prior to entering the left side of the fuselage. This line is not connected to anything and is open on the end.



The airspeed indicator has always been pretty accurate and within a knot or two of the GPS. What is this other line for? Some of the local RV guys think it was installed for a possible future AOA system. I had an avionics guy at the hangar and had him test both the static & pitot lines. The static is accurate and tight but the pitot line does not hold pressure. I suspect there is a leak somewhere and both lines are very old & brittle. I replaced the static lines and plan to replace these pitot lines as well. Should I cap off this other line that goes nowhere? If this line is sucking off pitot pressure then why is my airspeed indicator accurate?

Lastly, is there a way to retrofit the pitot tube with a heating element to have a heated pitot tube?

Would appreciate your inputs,
Oly
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Old 03-01-2013, 11:48 AM
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Some pitot have 2 hole, one staigth (for the speed indicator), and the other with an angle. The Dynon or other device of this kind will use the diffrence of pression between the 2 air line to find the angle of attack of the aircraft.. I think it's the only purpose of the second hole...

Probably the guys who build your RV have put the second line just in case he update his panel in the futur....
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Old 03-01-2013, 12:00 PM
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Yes, cap off the unnecessary pitot line. Best place is at the pitot tube, removing the line completely.

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Old 03-02-2013, 09:24 AM
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Thanks for the inputs. I'm thinking of running the second pitot line into the cockpit and cap it off there. That way I will have access if I ever want to put in an AOA or perhaps a future owner. It makes sense since I have the tank off and I'm going to replace the airspeed line anyway.

Any thoughts on how to retrofit my pitot tube with a heating element?
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:29 AM
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Adding heat is a real experimental undertaking. Do you have a drain hole? You need someplace for melted ice to go. The front opening, back to the drain hole has to stay above freezing at -20 C or so while moving thru the air. And not melt those plastic lines at low speeds. I know of no one who has built their pwn heater, although I'm sure it could be done, with enough work and time.
The newer Dynon and Gertz pitots use a controller to get the right amount of heat for varying conditions.
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Old 03-02-2013, 10:34 AM
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Adding a tee for AOA, if needed, will be lighter than carrying that second line along for the ride.

Also, AFS makes AOA instruments that do not use a specialized pitot tube.
http://www.advanced-flight-systems.c...s/AOA/aoa.html

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