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02-09-2013, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stone Mountain, Georgia
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West System Fast Hardner OK?
My buddy John Morgan flew me down to Peachtree City, GA this week so that I could replenish my resin and hardner supply at ACS. when I got home, I realized I purchased the fast hardner instead of the slow hardner I have been using. Will that be workable, or should I go back and swap it out for the slow? I am just about finished with the canopy skirt and I will have to do the wheel pants, intersection fairings and wing tips later.
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02-09-2013, 09:10 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Granbury Texas
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I used the fast hardener most of the time with no problem, especially in the winter.
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02-09-2013, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Perth, Australia
Posts: 267
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I prefer it
I have started with the slow , and now using the fast. I would buy the fast one again.
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02-09-2013, 09:59 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Oakland CA
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The only time I use slow is when it's very hot in the hangar (100F) and I want a pot life of longer than 5 minutes 
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02-09-2013, 11:29 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Vincent, Ohio
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Hi Steve,
I have yet to work on a project that required the 'fast' hardner. I use the 'slow' hardner exclusively and have used this on many many airplane (and other) projects. This gives me plenty of working time regardless of the ambient temperature. If I get a phone call or other distraction I'm never concerned about my epoxy. I have used the fast hardner in the past.....this is why I only use the slow.
In short there is absolutely no reason that the fast hardner will not work for you....just set up your task so it will be done in accordance of the working time for you hardner. If you are doing a bigger job like a windscreen lay up then just mix smaller amounts.
Have fun Steve!
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Originally Posted by Steve Ashby
My buddy John Morgan flew me down to Peachtree City, GA this week so that I could replenish my resin and hardner supply at ACS. when I got home, I realized I purchased the fast hardner instead of the slow hardner I have been using. Will that be workable, or should I go back and swap it out for the slow? I am just about finished with the canopy skirt and I will have to do the wheel pants, intersection fairings and wing tips later.
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02-09-2013, 07:35 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: California
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It's always best to go to the correct source of information for product data:
http://www.westsystem.com/ss/hardener-selection-guide/
They know the chemistry and what is best in terms of temperature and cure times. All else is just hearsay.....
Last edited by flyingriki : 02-09-2013 at 07:38 PM.
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02-09-2013, 07:56 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Meridian ID, Aspen CO, Okemos MI
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I use both - depending on what I am doing. If I am filling pinholes or covering tape, I use the fast. Same with setting anything I need to clamp. If I am laying up several layers, I use the slow. I can't imagine using slow smoothing the inside of the cowl or even the outside pinholes. Just don't mix up more than you can use. What is great with West systems - and probably the others is you get a choice.
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02-10-2013, 02:02 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mahomet, Illinois
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I use both ...
Similar to Rockwood, I use fast hardener on small jobs and most flox applications; while using the slow stuff on larger jobs that will take more time. I like 'em both; can't imagine not having the choice on each task/project.
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02-10-2013, 02:19 PM
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Winder Ga
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hardner
Steve I used both, fast really works OK in our colder wx right now 
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02-11-2013, 05:44 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Stone Mountain, Georgia
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Thank you for all of the info guys!
This is just what I needed. I will use the fast hardner, but will probably pick up some slow hardner when I get to the windshield layout (which requires more time). You guys are the best!
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Stone Mountain, GA
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