Installing the Dynon ADSB Weather-Traffic Box - Page 3

DonFromTX · #21 01-02-2013, 12:06 PM

I am still trying to decide where to mount the box and antenna, has anyone finalized their installation yet?

Keith Williams · #22 01-04-2013, 02:55 PM

Planning to add the ADSB box to my completed and flying ELSA Skyview RV12. Wrote Van's to see if any guidance is available. Response - no instructions and no time estimate on a kit. I have written again with my specific question. Not optimistic about that, so I am trying here.

Per the Skyview install manual, the only connections the Dynon ADSB box needs are power, ground and 2 data lines (to and from a serial port on the Skyview D1000) plus the antenna.

The Van's AV50000A module has four ADSB data lines in the ADSB plug pin-out and two in the TXP plug pinout. I wonder what those are for. I have been thinking the Skyview transponder set up does the ADSB-out and the new box is just a receiver - getting the ADSB-in info and displaying it on Skyview. If that the case, why the ADSB connections on the Van's module?

My question is - can I just go direct to the SV1000 per the Dynon manual and ignore the Van's module?

Also, if someone is going ahead, where and how do you plan to pick up the power from the Van's modules? I'm tempted to do it independent of the Van's modules and switches. At least I will understand what I did.

rvbuilder2002 · #23 01-04-2013, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Keith Williams

Planning to add the ADSB box to my completed and flying ELSA Skyview RV12. Wrote Van's to see if any guidance is available. Response - no instructions and no time estimate on a kit. I have written again with my specific question. Not optimistic about that, so I am trying here.

Per the Skyview install manual, the only connections the Dynon ADSB box needs are power, ground and 2 data lines (to and from a serial port on the Skyview D1000) plus the antenna.

The Van's AV50000A module has four ADSB data lines in the ADSB plug pin-out and two in the TXP plug pinout. I wonder what those are for. I have been thinking the Skyview transponder set up does the ADSB-out and the new box is just a receiver - getting the ADSB-in info and displaying it on Skyview. If that the case, why the ADSB connections on the Van's module?

My question is - can I just go direct to the SV1000 per the Dynon manual and ignore the Van's module?

Also, if someone is going ahead, where and how do you plan to pick up the power from the Van's modules? I'm tempted to do it independent of the Van's modules and switches. At least I will understand what I did.

You could ignore the module if you want.
It is pre-designed for a simple harness that will connect between there and the ADSB box. The other wiring to make the connections at the screen are already in place (so you would have to remove them if you decide to make the connections directly).

If you can wait a bit longer, a complete ADSB kit is in the works. I thnk the hope is to have it available by the end of first quarter 2013

Bill_H · #24 01-04-2013, 07:11 PM

You will likely find that the av5000 pins go into the big Skyview connector into the pins for serial port 5 (I think) of the Skyview, which is the default one for that function. This is based on the Dynon forum. I would certainly intend to use that av5000 connection because it is already nicely fused on the front panel! It would be easy enough to check the wire continuity and verify the pinouts. The big Skyview plug pinouts are in the Skyview manual.

The issue with waiting for the vans kit is that it may possibly be more optimized for installation during construction rather than retrofit. Hence all the discussion earlier in this thread about possible locations that do not involve running antenna coax up into the panel area. I won't be installing until April when my annual is due so I may be after the retrofit kit is available and have a fully informed decision then about using it or not.

hufise · #25 01-05-2013, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill_H

You will likely find that the av5000 pins go into the big Skyview connector into the pins for serial port 5 (I think) of the Skyview, which is the default one for that function.

Hi Bill

ADS-B Data A RX on skyview serial port 2 -
ADS-B Data B TX on skyview serial port 2
ADS-B Data C and D could by connected to the transponder gps data in and mutual supression

Daniel (Switzerland)

Bill_H · #26 01-05-2013, 10:47 AM

More Dynon info here - http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yab...num=1342657392
The 4 wires are: 1 is pin 1, 2 is pin 2... Only pins 1-4 are used. The cable to the ADSB box has a D9 male.
1: Power In
2: RX in to Box, TX on SkyView Wires
3: TX from box, RX on SkyView wires
4: Ground
The RX-TX is to any unused Skyview serial port. You probably have to tell the Skyview which one you are using unless it auto-detects(?) I imagine that the design of the AV5000 box and "future" wiring picked one of the unused ports based on other RV-12 components but I have not checked the new wiring drawings in detail. As said, easy to figure out when the panel top is removed. The serial wires do NOT have to be twisted and there is no length restriction.

DonFromTX · #27 06-26-2013, 08:32 AM

This thread just kinda got stalled, has anyone ever figured out how to hook up the ADSB In box to the AV5000 box?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_H

More Dynon info here - http://dynonavionics.com/cgi-bin/yab...num=1342657392
The 4 wires are: 1 is pin 1, 2 is pin 2... Only pins 1-4 are used. The cable to the ADSB box has a D9 male.
1: Power In
2: RX in to Box, TX on SkyView Wires
3: TX from box, RX on SkyView wires
4: Ground
The RX-TX is to any unused Skyview serial port. You probably have to tell the Skyview which one you are using unless it auto-detects(?) I imagine that the design of the AV5000 box and "future" wiring picked one of the unused ports based on other RV-12 components but I have not checked the new wiring drawings in detail. As said, easy to figure out when the panel top is removed. The serial wires do NOT have to be twisted and there is no length restriction.

Keith Williams · #28 06-26-2013, 09:30 AM

Don, I used the procedure described in the thread below.

http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...t=ads-b&page=2

Wiring could not have been easier - direct from the new box to the Van's 5000A box. I bought the ADS-B box and cable from Stein, with one end of cable left off for threading between the box in back, under the left longeron and to the 5000A. This was with a Skyview wiring harness, not a conversion, so that may be an issue for you. With mine, the wiring from the Van's 5000A harness to Skyview serial port 2 (from memory) was already in the bundle.

I have now flown with it enough to believe that it is a great system, at least around here. I am seeing local traffic from traffic pattern altitude, getting the other info on Skyview map pages as expected.

DonFromTX · #29 06-26-2013, 09:48 AM

We with the "180 to Skyview" conversion harness still have one 9 pin receptacle open in the SV 5000 labeled ADSB. I cannot find anything that helps me do the pin location in that plug, probably just looking in the wrong places for it..

rvbuilder2002 · #30 06-26-2013, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DonFromTX

We with the "180 to Skyview" conversion harness still have one 9 pin receptacle open in the SV 5000 labeled ADSB. I cannot find anything that helps me do the pin location in that plug, probably just looking in the wrong places for it..

That plug is designed for use with the pre-made harness that comes in the ADSB kit that can be purchased from Van's.
If you choose to make your own harness, the pinout info is available in the Skyview electrical system file available for download from the Van's web site.