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12-05-2012, 06:41 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Salem, OR
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Bill H,
I haven't seen any factory drawings on the placement of the ADS-B module or antenna. The only place I can see the module going is on the back side of the firewall to the right of the radio.
Obviously the antenna lead will have to penetrate the shelf somewhere with enough space in the hole to allow a connector to pass thru. All of mine are pretty well full as well. Perhaps there will be another hole to be installed. We'll all have to ait and see.
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12-05-2012, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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I haven't mounted the mini yet, but I am working on a mount for the stick that won't interfere with control stick motion or block my D180. When I get something finished I'll post it on another thread.
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12-05-2012, 12:38 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Windsor, California
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I think I would be concerned about the weight of a "stick-mounted" Mini or the like possibly inducing unwanted stick movement during turbulence / maneuvering?
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12-05-2012, 02:25 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 905
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There is a lot I don't know about these Ahars units, but I suggest looking at Levil.com and check out their coming (this month) Ilevil unit. It does everything you need to get set for 2020, and gives you weather, GPS, syn vision, and more. It requires no wiring , can be mtd anywhere, in any position, and used with an app like Wingxpro7 talks in wi-fi speak to your Ipad, and /or Iphone. One caveat- there will be 10000 iterations until 2020 I am certain, but it looks interesting to me just for adsb weather at this point. Caution: adsb weather does not provide all the goodies we are used to from XM which is one of the reasons XM costs more I suppose. Just something else to think about.
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12-05-2012, 04:55 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posts: 2,818
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I've used XM since buying a 396 when they first came out. It's great, but now that I'm flying within the LSA pilot parameters I think ADS-B is adequate. If the WX is that iffy it's probably better to just go back to the hotel, have a beer and try again tomorrow! :-)
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12-16-2012, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marshall TX (KASL)
Posts: 1,783
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Dynon Skyview Software release 5.0 is out. http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/RevLog_SkyView.html Supports the new ADSB weather/ traffic box, graphically shows TFRs, shows METAR text on the airport info page, can auto-sequence the transponder upon takeoff, plus a few other things.
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12-17-2012, 01:10 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Marshall TX (KASL)
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I had another idea about ADSB Box mounting. The objective is that it is reasonably easy to get to for troubleshooting, and in the tailcone makes this less than desirable. (Even with a split rear bulkhead so it is not necessary to remove the fuel tank - see the Modifications sticky thread.)
So - what about the box being attached to the underside of the panel cover (F-1230, page 33-03) that is in between the two wheelwells - the one where the red cube fuel flow sensor is. Up high and ensure no interference with the rudder cables. Haven't opened that yet, but seems easy to route the thin wires up to the AV-5000A box, and avoids a fat antenna cable going up there (remember, this is a retrofit to a flying Skyview RV-12.)
Have to have enough slack in the wiring to remove the panel and disconnect the wiring and antenna from the box, but have the slack in those wires not interfere with anything when the panel is in place.
The ADSB antenna has to be a couple of feet away from the transponder antenna so it cannot be mounted in that same cavity - but routing that cable aft to underneath the passenger seat might be a good, accessible spot for the antenna. (About in a mirror image placement to the AP pitch servo under the pilot seat) I'll be checking all of this in April when I have the plane open for the Annual and install it. Anyone doing it before then?
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12-17-2012, 08:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Hackettstown, NJ
Posts: 459
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Top of glove box
I might be mistaken, but it appears that the box is small enough that it could be mounted flat, on top of the glove box and still be clear of the top skin that covers all the avionics. The antenna cable can be fed down the side of the passenger area (likely behind the side walls or hidden in the channel that exists there) to feed under the seat ribs. From there it clearly can be fed as far back in the fuselage as you would want before attaching to the external antenna.
Does that make sense?
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12-17-2012, 09:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: La Feria Texas
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I am considering on the bulkhead just behind the tank, bolting it on a vertical surface near the antenna seems like a good idea. Of course this would only work if you have altered that bulkhead to avoid tank removal.
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12-17-2012, 10:31 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill_H
I had another idea about ADSB Box mounting. The objective is that it is reasonably easy to get to for troubleshooting, and in the tailcone makes this less than desirable. (Even with a split rear bulkhead so it is not necessary to remove the fuel tank - see the Modifications sticky thread.)
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Is troubleshooting really an objective?
The box only has 4 wires - power/ground and serial in/out - and a single co-ax.
Serial connections are auto tested by Dynon and if there is no power or antenna nothing will come out.
Once it is wired in, what are you going to trouble shoot?
It really sounds like a fit it in and leave it until it breaks, which should be a long time... 
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