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10-06-2012, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Safety as an excuse....Doug Reeves new helmet
So I like a lot of you have clicked on Doug?s new helmet link and seen his long and details explanation of the safety requirement Blah blah blah... you can make fun of me if you like Blah blah......these are all the reasons why it?s safer...Blah Blah.....none of this applies to the passenger because a pair of sunglasses and a baseball cap seem to do for them Blah blah.
No, this is not making fun of you Doug, I just wish you be a little more open about why you want it. The REAL reason why
I saw the design you put on the helmet and thought....oh wow that is awesome. I want one too now!!!!. That is a great helmet!
Then it occurred to me "wait a second, who does a design like that when what they really want it a safer flight...he would of done what so many others do and just left it grey if it was just safety"
Doug no one on this site will EVER think its vain, stupid or unnecessary for you to get yourself your topgun helmet and play highway to the danger zone as soon as you taking off. That?s why we do this because it?s fun and screw you to anyone that judges that.
I say that half the guys on here want to do the same and probably will after they see your totally cool helmet.
Except I ask that every one actually ADMIT that safety was just a nice bonus because the cool factor is what made you pull the trigger on it.
...and why not I say. Life is too short not to do as your heart desires.
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10-06-2012, 11:26 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
Posts: 875
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I had enough of those darn helmets in a previous life. It's all baseball caps and sunglasses for me now (and feathers in my teeth). 
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10-07-2012, 02:48 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 976
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As an aside, I had been doing some research on Helmets in GA - and this thread triggered me to format it:
Helmets in GA
Hope of interest, any comments / additional references welcome 
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10-07-2012, 07:27 AM
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Morrison, CO
Posts: 372
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Very nice compilation Andy; and an interesting read. Thanks.
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10-07-2012, 08:08 AM
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unqualified unfluencer
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Highland Village, TX
Posts: 4,086
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GusBiz
snip....Except I ask that every one actually ADMIT that safety was just a nice bonus because the cool factor is what made you pull the trigger on it.
...and why not I say. Life is too short not to do as your heart desires.
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Thanks Gus.
I actually was fine with grey, and did choose that, but Gibson Barnes' sales rep Frank suggested the paintjob. I had no input in the process at all, other than sending them a picture of my plane. Their artist guy came up with what you see. Pretty amazed myself!
I think I'm in the phase of life where I'm hyper-aware of the responsibilities I have to my family. No longer bulletproof and three people relying on me financially now and all.
Six people have died flying out of my airport in the last 14 days. Two a couple of weeks ago (I knew the CFII), and four more yesterday in an BE36/G (if it's the plane I think it is....I saw it take off).
It makes you think about doing those things that protect you.
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- Occasionally: Contract pilot (resume).
Last edited by DeltaRomeo : 10-07-2012 at 09:08 AM.
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10-07-2012, 08:11 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Twin Cities, MN
Posts: 1,565
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I read a lot of information here and elsewhere when I was thinking about helmets; the conclusion I came to was that the HGU/55P helmets such as Gibson&Barnes offer isn't the most crashworthy thing available. It's a "bump" helmet, not a crash helmet, as I recall someone describing it. That, combined with it's astronomical price, made me look elsewhere.
A lower cost option is something like this: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...?clickkey=7904 - it works with your existing headset and is still low profile enough to use in RVs (I'm 6'5, 34" inseam, and I fit in my -6A with the helmet on n/p).
I don't know if I'll wear it every flight once phase one is done, but until then I don't think it's a bad idea.
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10-07-2012, 08:27 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
Posts: 4,021
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I don't know that much about helmets in airplanes............but when I was thrown head first to the pavement during a 65 mph collusion with a leaping deer on my motorcycle, the helmet DID it's job. It took out my collar bone, my shoulder blade, and all left ribs. But my head & neck were untouched. And they all eventually healed.
I DO believe in helmets now!
L.Adamson
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10-07-2012, 09:16 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: SC & CA
Posts: 907
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Gibson Barnes is a quality shop and I highly recommend their products. A few years back I had them modify a slightly damaged helmet (crew chief had attempted to close a F-16 canopy with the helmet still sitting on the canopy rail). The shell survived with just a small crack! I believe Doug is having the same type of helmet shell modified. As someone stated, it is not a crash helmet, it is a bump (or canopy rail crush) helmet. It is designed to essentially provide head and face protection from the elements during a high speed ejection.
Since ejection is not an easily accomplished feat in the RV, a great alternative use, with visor installed, is bird impact protection. The helmet is light weight and reasonably comfortable assuming the helmet is fitted correctly.
I had GB install all the bells and whistles including some art work reflecting the national origin of one of our favorite VAF aviators, Vlad. GB custom builds helmets for a huge variety of end-users. If interested, you might check out their website:
http://www.gibson-barnes.com/
Regards,
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10-07-2012, 09:24 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Dallas, TX (ADS)
Posts: 2,180
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Interesting... Having had a small bird strike on the bike last week (it hit the windscreen), I will ponder wearing a helmet while flying power. Doubt I will do it while soaring.
FWIW, I always wear a fill face while "flying" at ground level, and I hope you all to do.
TODR
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10-07-2012, 03:53 PM
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Liberty, MO
Posts: 252
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Helmet
I saw this ad in Gulf Coast avionics. It doesn't look as impact resistant as my old .mil helmet (on my shelf at the office-given to me after my fini flight) but might help in a casual bounce off of the horizonal stab leaving the scene.
http://www.gulfcoastavionics.com/pro...met-white.aspx
Does anyone know anything about it or have any thoughts? The price looks reasonable.
John
RV-8
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