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Old 09-13-2012, 08:06 AM
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LOL @ Tailwind. I took a 170 to a flyin at columbia, I think it was around 100nm or so, the Tailwind was still in the hanger with the doors closed when I took off. When I landed the tailwind was already there. I asked the owner how long he had been there, he said long enough to button up the plane and use the restroom with time to spare. When i asked him what he averaged up here he said about 155-160. Me, thinking its just another 90kt high wing was baffled, but apparently they are fast lol. after closer inspection of his plane up close, i can see why!

they are cool planes, the visibility looks like it sucks though.
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:56 AM
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my only tri-landing ever, was in a yankee. I quickly learned that the hershey bar style wing does not like to have the power pulled back to idle at short final like im used to, having been flying big wing taildraggers
Believe it or not you can coax a 4-point roll out of a stock Yankee.

If you can find one with a larger engine conversion rather than an tailwheel conversion you'll be happier I believe. Although the standard fuel configuration will leave you with short legs unless there is extra fuel plumbed.

A Yankee with its symmetrical (laminar flow?) airfoil will go like stink with a 180 in it!
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Old 09-13-2012, 08:57 AM
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my only tri-landing ever, was in a yankee. I quickly learned that the hershey bar style wing does not like to have the power pulled back to idle at short final like im used to, having been flying big wing taildraggers
The way I learned to fly these was: Carry a brick with you. When you pull back the power toss the brick out. When the brick hits the ground, flare.
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:18 AM
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Im not sure there are a lot of people that want to partner with a 27 year old low time pilot. even if that wasnt the case, ive seen too many partnerships go sour locally, imo its more headache than its worth.
Nonsense!

I bought my first airplane at 23 and I had less than 60 hours, I had a partner.

Perhaps you should look for another 27 year old low time pilot to partner with?
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Old 09-13-2012, 09:36 AM
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LOL @ Tailwind. Me, thinking its just another 90kt high wing was baffled, but apparently they are fast lol. after closer inspection of his plane up close, i can see why! They are cool planes, the visibility looks like it sucks though.
Richard,
Tailwinds are great airplanes as previously mentioned and cheaper than the RV4 depending on equipment. They don't share the RV4's Total Performance aspect fully, but what does? I have 150 hours in a C90 powered TW that weighed 700lbs and easily cruised at 150 MPH. They have similar visibility to my Taylorcraft, not like a canopy, but what is? Get a ride in one, I think you'll like it. If you are interested, I know of one for sale, pictured below.http://www.airbum.com/pireps/PirepTailwind.html

However, right now it is a buyers market, especially the RV4. If you really want one and can swing a loan for 1/2 of the cost, you won't regret the decision. After 25 years it's still my favorite personal flying machine. If you ever meet Van ask him his favorite RV...


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Old 09-13-2012, 12:18 PM
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....and the same funky wingtip ends that Paul Lipps raved about for speed.

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Old 09-13-2012, 12:36 PM
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Smokey, that's a nice looking tailwind, is it a 8 or a 10?
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Old 09-13-2012, 03:59 PM
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LOL @ Tailwind. I took a 170 to a flyin at columbia, I think it was around 100nm or so, the Tailwind was still in the hanger with the doors closed when I took off. When I landed the tailwind was already there. I asked the owner how long he had been there, he said long enough to button up the plane and use the restroom with time to spare. When i asked him what he averaged up here he said about 155-160. Me, thinking its just another 90kt high wing was baffled, but apparently they are fast lol. after closer inspection of his plane up close, i can see why!

they are cool planes, the visibility looks like it sucks though.
I have more that 250 hrs in the Tailwind- the Visibility is not as good as an RV, But not as bad as you think. The control harmony is not "RV like and more of a challenge in a cross wind. But It is a rocket with an empty Wt closer to a RV3 for two people. A 150 HP Tailwind that cruses at 200MPH easy. I had to move the rudder pedals though since I"m tall. Was hard to find one with the extra inches I needed. I do miss it.
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:08 PM
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Smokey, that's a nice looking tailwind, is it a 8 or a 10?
Wingtips give it away as a W10- Steve extended the wingtips as one of the design mods.

And here is an example of a W8- with a asking price that is so low... hard to believe
http://www.trade-a-plane.com/detail/...d/1505450.html
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Old 09-18-2012, 12:31 PM
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I have owned both the sonerai II and the 4. I actually got my tailwheel endorsement in the sonerai from an instructor with nerves of steel. Visibility is normally terrible from the rear of the sonerai. I could never see the runway if it was in front of me. They are a blast to fly though but needs to be controlled every second. It is docile on the ground but again vis is poor. If you can get past that go for it if you don't mind staying close to home. With the small fuel supply I'd be looking for a spot to land in less than two hours. The 4 is a dream after the sonerai. Great visibilty, docile, plenty of fuel and fast and way more comfortable. Good luck.
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