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09-11-2012, 05:31 PM
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I bought a Cessna 140 for $20K. Got my tailwheel endorsement in it. Flew it for 150 hrs. Learned a lot about planning ahead due to limited power and high DA. Learned to deal with the spring gear skyrocketing me into orbit if my wheel landings were bad. Sold it for $20K. Did transition training with Alex D. and flying the -4 after all that was a piece of cake. Good luck!
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09-11-2012, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by AX-O
I bought a Cessna 140 for $20K. Got my tailwheel endorsement in it. Flew it for 150 hrs. Learned a lot about planning ahead due to limited power and high DA. Learned to deal with the spring gear skyrocketing me into orbit if my wheel landings were bad. Sold it for $20K. Did transition training with Alex D. and flying the -4 after all that was a piece of cake. Good luck!
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Great advice.
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09-11-2012, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Yep
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Originally Posted by AX-O
I bought a Cessna 140 for $20K. Got my tailwheel endorsement in it. Flew it for 150 hrs. Learned a lot about planning ahead due to limited power and high DA. Learned to deal with the spring gear skyrocketing me into orbit if my wheel landings were bad. Sold it for $20K. Did transition training with Alex D. and flying the -4 after all that was a piece of cake. Good luck!
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Spot on. You cannot help but get good stick & rudder skills from a bird like this.
Good advice indeed,
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09-11-2012, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Los Angeles, CA
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wing thing?
i think the Hersey bar wing has little to do with power and descent rate. I think it has more to do with wing loading and power loading, etc. The fact that the Hersey bar wing is a bear to land I think is an old wives tale. Granted, those planes with Hersey bar wings tend to also have other characteristics in common that makes landing a bear. I do not want people to judge a plane by the shape of the wing alone. JMO. YMMV>
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09-11-2012, 07:15 PM
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I've owned both..
a Sonerai 2 and 2 T-18s. I truly enjoyed the Sonerai but it is a one person plane or 2 extremely light people. The T-18 is in the same class as an RV. The Sonerai is more in the same class as a KR-2. Although a bit narrower than the RV with a 38 inch cockpit the T-18 handles extremely well. You can't go wrong with a well built T-18.
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Originally Posted by the4ork
I cant quite afford an RV-4 yet, but I would really like to pick something up in the mean time thats two place, similar (although this seems like a stretch) performance, and I prefer a tailwheel. (never flown a tricycle)
I was thinking I could pick up a Sonerai 2 for about half-price of the RV.
the performance is about half but i think it would be a good stepping stone to get me up in the air.
any thoughts?
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09-11-2012, 07:53 PM
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I traded my motorcycle (pride and joy show winner) and all my cash savings for sn rv-4... But beware.. You get what you pay for. I got about a year out of it before I took it down for new everything. On a way it was a way to pay in parts but will have cost more in the long run. On the bright side it will be exactly like I want it when completed.
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09-11-2012, 10:49 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Poulsbo, WA
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options....
great advice above; I bought a Cessna 140 while building my -6A and put over 325 hours on it before selling when I got my RV flying. Great experience and kept me flying while building, at the cost of slowing down my build (money and time put into Ce-140 that could have gone into RV build). No regrets.
Although it wouldn't have worked for me due to realities of military transfers, it would have been great to find a 50% partnership in an RV-4 that would not have been much different in purchase price with a partner and would have been a lot cheaper to maintain than a certified bird.
Good luck on whatever path you choose!
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09-12-2012, 06:56 AM
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Join Date: May 2007
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Save your money
Why not bite the bullet and save up for a RV 4. So you don't fly for a couple years, be active at the airport, help on somebody's project.........I owned a 172 till I bought the fuse to my 8A, then sold the 172. I didn't fly for over 2 years, but it was all worth it. My 8A is paid for and the break made me appreciate flying even more.
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09-12-2012, 07:19 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Victoria, BC, Canada
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I'll second the recommendations for the Thorp as well... It flies a lot like an RV, and not all that much slower, either. The Grumman AA1 handles like an RV-6, according to a friend who has flown both, it's just a little slower. Larger engine conversions on the Grummans do bring them closer to RV speed ranges, though.
Nice thing about these cheaper options is that whatever you pay for them, you won't lose much when you sell them a few years later when you can afford the RV-4.
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09-12-2012, 08:09 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: california
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AX-O
I bought a Cessna 140 for $20K. Got my tailwheel endorsement in it. Flew it for 150 hrs. Learned a lot about planning ahead due to limited power and high DA. Learned to deal with the spring gear skyrocketing me into orbit if my wheel landings were bad. Sold it for $20K. Did transition training with Alex D. and flying the -4 after all that was a piece of cake. Good luck!
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LOL most of my time is in a 170, so a lot of the same experiences here! By far the bounciest gear I have touched down on. I got my license in it.... and yes, the -4 is a piece of cake comparatively, and every other tailwheel ive flown! fox, citabria, stearman, texan, -4
Last edited by the4ork : 09-12-2012 at 08:15 AM.
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