VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Education > Flight Testing
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 07-17-2012, 05:17 PM
noelf noelf is online now
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Cary, N.C.
Posts: 1,216
Default

Some time ago, Van's RVator published an article I submitted using lead dive weights and a custom box that I strapped into the passenger seat. I could also reposition the box in the baggage area for CG trials. Everything was secure and weights could be easily be added or removed.
__________________
Noel
RV-6A N6NF
tip-up
flying
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 07-17-2012, 05:32 PM
Caveman's Avatar
Caveman Caveman is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 669
Default

Bob,

I was given this advice for the front passenger seat, and it worked well for me. Use the 80 lb. bags of concrete mix. Double bag them with large garbage bags separetly in case you have any leaks. Remove the passenger side seat cushions. Place the bags one at a time upright against the seat back. Use your 5 point harness to strap them tightly in place. An additional partially filled bag can be used to fine tune for your particular airplane's c.g. and gross weight.

In the baggage compartment, I used 40 pound livestock salt blocks from the feed store. They are very easy to handle and fit easily.

Warning! Heed the others advice about strapping things down tight. Then double check it. If you do not have tie downs, stop now and add them. Do not take a chance. I could tell you a story but I don't want to embarass my friend...
__________________
Joe Schneider
RV-7, IO-360, BA Hartzell, N847CR
Flying since 2008
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 07-17-2012, 06:44 PM
LynnHall's Avatar
LynnHall LynnHall is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 52
Default Lead shot

I used sand bags and lead shot. I really like the lead shot, it was easy to move around and didn't take up much space.
__________________
Lynn Hall
554LH rv-9a (flying)
http://www.youtube.com/user/554LH?feature=guide[/url]
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 07-17-2012, 07:14 PM
jthocker's Avatar
jthocker jthocker is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,060
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry View Post
Boy, none of these do much for me. If I'm doing a 60 knot climb, everything's gonna shift. the box of lift weights (all duct-taped up and strapped in) might work. There's just so little room on a seat without messing with the passenger stick (I know what you're about to write, but it's bolted in per the plans and it ain't coming out!)
Well I know this going to cause a bunch of people to go absolutely nuts, but this is exactly why my FAA FSDO inspector has told us to forgo the sand bag/lead weight in the seat method and use a live human if they understand the potential ramifications. My large brother in law comes in quite handy for these tests!
He loads himself, which also cuts down on potential back injuries for me, as I don't have to awkwardly load sandbags/water jugs/lead weights!
The inspector investigated an accident where the sand bags shifted and jammed the stick, resulting in a fatal crash. He doesn't like those!
__________________
Jon Thocker
Habitual Offender
RV4, RV4, RV6A, RV8, RV8, RV8,RV8, RV8, RV8, RV12
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 07-17-2012, 07:23 PM
jbDC9 jbDC9 is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 867
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by LynnHall View Post
I really like the lead shot, it was easy to move around and didn't take up much space.
Yep, another vote here for lead shot; bought it in 25 lb bags at a sporting goods/gun store. Very dense and compact and can be secured by putting 'em in a duffle bag to tie down. It's probably more expensive than bags of concrete or dog chow, but could be passed/sold on to another builder.
__________________
John Bixby
RV-8 QB sn 82030 - 1750 hrs
O-360-A1D/CS/Pmags
Houston, TX
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 07-17-2012, 07:29 PM
bird's Avatar
bird bird is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: lake charles, La.
Posts: 699
Default

I like the brother-in-law, mother-in-law idea the best. just having fun

bird
__________________
Bird
rv8 entire airframe at airport now, painting done, intersection and gear upper and lower fairings done, maybe order engine around first of year or before the next rate increase.
"to fly is a privilege that I am so thankful to God for"
http://www.mykitlog.com/tcb328/
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 07-17-2012, 07:30 PM
N941WR's Avatar
N941WR N941WR is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
Default

Whatever you use, double bag it!

If you use dog food, you don't want to invite mice. If you use sand or concrete, it would sure stink to have a bag rip open and you permanently add 20 or 40 lbs to your plane.

I used lead shot bags, double ought works great. Again, double bag. I had one rip open right as I set it on the hangar floor after testing.

Our EAA chapter bought a bunch of bags and makes them available to any chapter member. Maybe you can talk your chapter into doing the same.

The only time we ran out of weight was with on member's Murphy Super Rebel. Man, can that thing ever haul a ton and then some! He said his plane can haul more than his Dodge Durango SUV.
__________________
Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
www.repucci.com/bill/baf.html
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 07-17-2012, 09:57 PM
LarryT LarryT is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Battle Ground, WA
Posts: 426
Default Oil Dri...

... -then you have a lifetime supply of something you know you will use up. Kitty litter (basically the same thing - treated Fuller's Earth) for those who have cats.

Larry Tompkins
544WB RV-6A
W52 Battle Ground, WA
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 07-18-2012, 04:31 AM
rzbill's Avatar
rzbill rzbill is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,690
Default

Multiple bags of chicken feed. Removed the copilot stick and belted the bags into position plus a couple in the back.
__________________
Bill Pendergrass
ME/AE '82
RV-7A: Flying since April 15, 2012. 850 hrs
YIO-360-M1B, mags, CS, GRT EX and WS H1s & A/P, Navworx
Unpainted, polished....kinda'... Eyeballin' vinyl really hard.
Yeah. The boss got a Silhouette Cameo 4 Xmas 2019.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 07-18-2012, 05:59 AM
Wayne Gillispie Wayne Gillispie is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 1,499
Default Use another RV pilot

We know the dangers and should inspect the plane before flight.

Like Jon, my FSDO recommended this to me. There was a local crash due to sandbags falling on controls.
__________________
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 04:43 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.