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07-17-2012, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Cary, N.C.
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Some time ago, Van's RVator published an article I submitted using lead dive weights and a custom box that I strapped into the passenger seat. I could also reposition the box in the baggage area for CG trials. Everything was secure and weights could be easily be added or removed.
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Noel
RV-6A N6NF
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07-17-2012, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 669
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Bob,
I was given this advice for the front passenger seat, and it worked well for me. Use the 80 lb. bags of concrete mix. Double bag them with large garbage bags separetly in case you have any leaks. Remove the passenger side seat cushions. Place the bags one at a time upright against the seat back. Use your 5 point harness to strap them tightly in place. An additional partially filled bag can be used to fine tune for your particular airplane's c.g. and gross weight.
In the baggage compartment, I used 40 pound livestock salt blocks from the feed store. They are very easy to handle and fit easily.
Warning! Heed the others advice about strapping things down tight. Then double check it. If you do not have tie downs, stop now and add them. Do not take a chance. I could tell you a story but I don't want to embarass my friend... 
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Joe Schneider
RV-7, IO-360, BA Hartzell, N847CR
Flying since 2008
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07-17-2012, 06:44 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Chandler, AZ
Posts: 52
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Lead shot
I used sand bags and lead shot. I really like the lead shot, it was easy to move around and didn't take up much space.
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Lynn Hall
554LH rv-9a (flying)
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07-17-2012, 07:14 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,060
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Originally Posted by LettersFromFlyoverCountry
Boy, none of these do much for me. If I'm doing a 60 knot climb, everything's gonna shift. the box of lift weights (all duct-taped up and strapped in) might work. There's just so little room on a seat without messing with the passenger stick (I know what you're about to write, but it's bolted in per the plans and it ain't coming out!)
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Well I know this going to cause a bunch of people to go absolutely nuts, but this is exactly why my FAA FSDO inspector has told us to forgo the sand bag/lead weight in the seat method and use a live human if they understand the potential ramifications. My large brother in law comes in quite handy for these tests!
He loads himself, which also cuts down on potential back injuries for me, as I don't have to awkwardly load sandbags/water jugs/lead weights!
The inspector investigated an accident where the sand bags shifted and jammed the stick, resulting in a fatal crash. He doesn't like those!
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Jon Thocker
Habitual Offender
RV4, RV4, RV6A, RV8, RV8, RV8,RV8, RV8, RV8, RV12
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07-17-2012, 07:23 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 867
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Quote:
Originally Posted by LynnHall
I really like the lead shot, it was easy to move around and didn't take up much space.
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Yep, another vote here for lead shot; bought it in 25 lb bags at a sporting goods/gun store. Very dense and compact and can be secured by putting 'em in a duffle bag to tie down. It's probably more expensive than bags of concrete or dog chow, but could be passed/sold on to another builder.
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John Bixby
RV-8 QB sn 82030 - 1750 hrs
O-360-A1D/CS/Pmags
Houston, TX
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07-17-2012, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: lake charles, La.
Posts: 699
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I like the brother-in-law, mother-in-law idea the best.  just having fun
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rv8 entire airframe at airport now, painting done, intersection and gear upper and lower fairings done, maybe order engine around first of year or before the next rate increase.
"to fly is a privilege that I am so thankful to God for"
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07-17-2012, 07:30 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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Whatever you use, double bag it!
If you use dog food, you don't want to invite mice. If you use sand or concrete, it would sure stink to have a bag rip open and you permanently add 20 or 40 lbs to your plane.
I used lead shot bags, double ought works great. Again, double bag. I had one rip open right as I set it on the hangar floor after testing.
Our EAA chapter bought a bunch of bags and makes them available to any chapter member. Maybe you can talk your chapter into doing the same.
The only time we ran out of weight was with on member's Murphy Super Rebel. Man, can that thing ever haul a ton and then some! He said his plane can haul more than his Dodge Durango SUV.
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Bill R.
RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
SC86 - Easley, SC
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07-17-2012, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Battle Ground, WA
Posts: 426
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Oil Dri...
... -then you have a lifetime supply of something you know you will use up. Kitty litter (basically the same thing - treated Fuller's Earth) for those who have cats.
Larry Tompkins
544WB RV-6A
W52 Battle Ground, WA
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07-18-2012, 04:31 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Asheville, NC
Posts: 2,690
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Multiple bags of chicken feed. Removed the copilot stick and belted the bags into position plus a couple in the back.
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Bill Pendergrass
ME/AE '82
RV-7A: Flying since April 15, 2012. 850 hrs
YIO-360-M1B, mags, CS, GRT EX and WS H1s & A/P, Navworx
Unpainted, polished....kinda'... Eyeballin' vinyl really hard.
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07-18-2012, 05:59 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 1,499
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Use another RV pilot
We know the dangers and should inspect the plane before flight.
Like Jon, my FSDO recommended this to me. There was a local crash due to sandbags falling on controls.
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