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Old 07-16-2012, 03:06 PM
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Post Garmin Oshkosh 2012 Announcements

Garmin is pleased to share some of our Oshkosh announcements with our portable and experimental aviation customers on VAF.

GDL39 ADS-B Receiver

The GDL 39 receives free traffic and weather from ADS-B ground stations and additionally receives air-to-air traffic from aircraft transmitting on both 978 MHz (UAT) and 1090 MHz (extended squitter).

The 010-11689-06 GDL39 package (for G3X) comes with a GDL39, a snap-in mount, and a bare wire cable for $799 street price. The snap-in mount allows you to remotely mount the GDL39 or just secure it to the glare shield or other convenient location. The top mounted ADS-B In and internal GPS antennas can be remote mounted if you want to keep your glare shield clear.

Similar $799 packages complete with GDL39 and cable are available for GPSMAP 695/696, Aera 500/510/550/560, and Aera 795/796. As an introductory mail-in promotion, customers purchasing a GDL39 package before Aug. 31st, 2012 receive a free carrying case and battery. Support for the GPSMAP 396/495/496 is limited to traffic only.

Connecting a GDL39 to a G3X system is simple with the bare wire cable which comes with the GDL39 package. Just connect the two RS-232 data lines to a spare serial port on the G3X MFD (or PFD in single display G3X system) in addition to power and ground and you can be receiving traffic and weather in minutes.

G3X supports both TIS-A traffic from transponders like the GTX23ES and ADS-B traffic (TIS-B, ADS-R, ADS-B air-to-air). You have the choice of configuring the system to automatically choose TIS-A traffic over ADS-B traffic when TIS-A is available, or just stick with ADS-B traffic all the time.


ADS-B Traffic on Aera 5XX


ADS-B Traffic on G3X


FIS-B NOTAMS on G3X


ADS-B Ground Station List Shown on Actual Flight at 4500'


FIS-B Weather on G3X Map Page

GPS400W IFR Navigator for G3X

As everyone is no doubt aware, the FAA is currently requiring a certified WAAS GPS source for ADS-B Out. To complete our ADS-B In/Out capability for G3X, we wanted a more affordable way for customers to provide that data to the GTX23ES extended squitter Mode S transponder ? and this is it.

G3X customers can now purchase a GPS400W IFR navigator for $3,995 street price and not only will they have the required position source for ADS-B Out, they can also fly IFR enroute and thousands of LNAV, LNAV+V, LNAV/VNAV, and LPV approaches to make this an exceptional value.

ADS-B In/Out Solution for G3X

With G3X you can start small with a complete single display system for as low as $5,995 or a complete dual display system for as low as $8,570 and then add on affordable components to achieve full ADS-B In/Out capability and even IFR navigation/approach capability.

Add GDL39 ADS-B traffic and weather receiver: $799
Add GTX23ES Mode S transponder with 1090 ES ADS-B Out: $2,199
Add GPS400W IFR navigator for GTX23ES position source and IFR approaches: $3,995

Equipping for the ADS-B mandate and receiving the benefits of free ADS-B traffic and weather couldn?t be simpler. With G3X and the GTX23ES you have a single 1090 MHz extended squitter transmitter and you enter your transponder code and flight ID right through the PFD.

And the best news is that this capability is available now. G3X and portable software updates will be available during Oshkosh week.

If you are at Oshkosh next week please stop by the G3X tent, say hello, and let us answer any questions you may have.

Thanks to all our great customers for their support,
Garmin Portable and Experimental Aviation Team

P.S. Stay tuned - another announcement coming later this week!
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FAQs
1. Can the GDL39 antenna(s) be remote mounted?
Yes, the top mounted antenna uses an SMA connector. This antenna can be remote mounted with a Garmin 010-11825-10 extension cable (8 ft.), or you can use a SMA to BNC adapter and run a standard BNC coax cable to a blade or dipole style transponder antenna. It works best to mount this antenna on the bottom of the aircraft since the ground stations are below, but other locations can also work well. As mentioned above, the unit comes with a clip-in mount to support remote mounting. You will also need a Garmin 010-10157-00 GA25 MCX GPS antenna (8 ft RG174A/U cable) to remote the internal GPS antenna if your remote mounting location doesn't support receiving a GPS signal.

2. Who may receive the special pricing for the GPS400W?
This special pricing is currently only available for new and present G3X customers.

3. How long will the GPS400W be sold and supported?
At this time, we are not life-limited for the production (or future support) of the GPS 400W. Expect both to continue for many years to come.

4. If I install a G3X system with a GDL39 (ADS-B In), GTX23ES (ADS-B Out), and GPS400W (certified WAAS position source for GTX23ES), do I receive the traffic and weather benefits of a participating ADS-B aircraft?
Yes. As mentioned in other posts, the software in the GTX23ES and GPS400W will require updating later this year to be fully "V2" ADS-B compliant for 2020, but you will immediately receive the benefits of ADS-B traffic and weather with the current "V1" software.

5. If I have an Aera 5XX or GPSMAP 69X providing NMEA Out (Fast or Slow) to an external autopilot or other device, won't I lose that capability if I connect the GDL39 to the serial port on the portable GPS?
No. When you have a GDL39 connected to the serial port of one these units and configured for Garmin Data Transfer (which is required for the GDL39), a second serial port configuration option will be presented to allow you to configure a second function for the port of NMEA Out (Fast or Slow). The GDL39 will forward this NMEA data out a second serial port on the bare wire cable to the external device. This setup will be explained in the Pilot's Guides for these GPS products.
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:15 PM
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Old news, Stein beat you to it

At least the GDL 39.....

But, what do you expect for only $.02??
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:32 PM
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Steve,

On the GTX-23ES xponder, what are Garmin's plans for making it meet the version2/tso-166b standard required for the 2020 mandate? Also when and how do you expect Garmin will bring the panel mount navigators up to the standards required for ADS-B position sources.

Exciting stuff! Can't wait to hear the next announcement!

Edit, found the answer to some of the questions on the Garmin News, still curious on the GPS's:

"New certification for the GTX 330/33 ES meets ADS-B compliance standards
Garmin also announced that it expects to receive the FAA’s TSO-C166b authorization for the GTX 330 and GTX 33 transponders with Extended Squitter (ES) transmission capabilities. The new certification allows these Mode-S transponders to meet current ADS-B compliance standards as a certified ADS-B Out solution, when paired with a compatible WAAS position source. The GTX 330/33 ES broadcasts on the 1090 MHz ADS-B frequency, making this an ideal solution for aircraft that fly at any altitude or outside of the U.S. where it will be required to broadcast on the 1090 frequency band. For experimental aircraft equipped with G3X, the GTX 23 ES is also available as an affordable path to compliance.

This is also an easy and affordable option for any aircraft already equipped with a GTX 330, GTX 33 or GTX 23 series transponder. Customers with a standard GTX 330/33 transponder can purchase an ES upgrade from a Garmin Authorized dealer for $1,200, available in Q4 2012. For aircraft owners that already have a GTX 330 ES, GTX 33 ES or a GTX 23 ES, a free update will be available through Garmin Authorized Dealers. Garmin expects to receive the new Technical Standard Orders (TSO) certification in Q4 2012. The GTX 330 ES and GTX 33 ES are expected to receive the FAA’s Approved Model List Supplemental Type Certification (AML STC) in Q4 2012 and it will be approved on a broad model list covering most Part 23 fixed-wing aircraft."
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Old 07-16-2012, 03:38 PM
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I've got a GDU-375 but it is not set up as a G3X (I'm using it as a "panel mount" 696). Does any of this (particularly the GPS-400W) work with a "plain" GDU-375?

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Old 07-16-2012, 05:20 PM
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"when and how do you expect Garmin will bring the panel mount navigators up to the standards required for ADS-B position sources."
Brian,

Now that the dust has settled on the "V2" ADS-B Out requirements, Garmin is working to update and re-certify the software in transponders and IFR navigators to be compliant.

New software is planned to be available later this year. Information on upgrading will be provided at that time.

Note, however, that you can still receive most of the benefits of ADS-B air-to-air and ground uplinked traffic (and of course weather) with the present software. You just won't be 2020 compliant until the software in these units has been upgraded.

Dan,

The standalone GDU 375 will indeed work with a GDL39 to receive and display traffic and weather. It will also interface to a GPS400W and show the flight plan entered into that unit, but can't be used to fly IFR (without additional equipment) since it doesn't have an HSI to provide the required navigation guidance like the PFD on a G3X system.

Thanks,
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The GPS400W is a GNS430W with the comm and nav section stripped out; it will not be sold after this year. Unfortunately.
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Old 07-16-2012, 05:44 PM
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Thanks Steve, good information...
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The GPS400W is a GNS430W with the comm and nav section stripped out; it will not be sold after this year. Unfortunately.
Are you absolutely certain about that?

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Old 07-16-2012, 07:01 PM
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$4K for a G400 represents a huge price reduction. I'll be they sell a ton of them, enough to keep them in production for a while longer.

Will they sell at that price to non G3X people?
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Old 07-16-2012, 08:08 PM
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Steve,

The vendors are saying selling the GDL39 ADSB as compliant with the 396/496 as well. Is that true? You didn't mention it. Thanks
If you go to the site Stein linked in his post on the units, then click the tab for "Compatible devices" there is a chart that explains it.

As I recall, the 496 will show traffic, but not weather.
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