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06-28-2006, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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copying paint scheme
It will be years before I'm at this point, but I'm sure I'm not the only new builder who has started thinking about how I will paint my RV-9A before the empannage kit even arrives!
Question - is it considered bad form to copy someone else's paint design? I found a guy whose RV-9A paint scheme and colours I absolutely love. It's so simple that I can't even think how I would change it or customize it. Is copying someone's paint design something that is just not done?
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06-28-2006, 10:29 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Land of the Free
Clearly a First Ammendment issue. People copy paint schemes all the time. I say go for it. Care to post a photo so that we can all copy it? 
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06-28-2006, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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06-28-2006, 11:03 AM
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It would be most courteous if you asked the owner of the scheme you want to copy if he/she is okay with it. Most folks won't have a problem.
I made the mistake of paying Scheme Designers for a paint scheme and then posting it on my web site. Before I could get my Rocket painted, I found a RV-6 who shamelessly copied my "exclusive" scheme, just in a different color.
Now I'm back to square one again. It's due in the paint shop this fall so I'll have to come up with something different pretty soon.
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06-28-2006, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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link
here is a link to that RV paint scheme I love... simple, clean lines, great colour.
http://www3.telus.net/aviation/flyin...00108_00_1.jpg
He used "It's Sherwin-Williams JetGlo", which is a high-gloss urethane.
Cost him $6,000CAD to have it done professionally.
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06-28-2006, 11:56 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Austin, Tx
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Prkaye,
That would be a copy of a copy of a copy of a copy...
Tracy.
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06-28-2006, 12:00 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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This is most certainly NOT a first amendment issue. Any creative work, paint schemes included, are protect by the copyright laws. You do not have to 'apply' for a copyright to be protected.
That said, a simple design like the two-tone with pinstripe that you're talking about is so close to so many existing designs that I doubt a copyright infringement claim could be successful.
I think you ought to ask as a courtesy, but it probably isn't necessary.
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06-28-2006, 12:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
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Originally Posted by mdredmond
This is most certainly NOT a first amendment issue. Any creative work, paint schemes included, are protect by the copyright laws. You do not have to 'apply' for a copyright to be protected.
That said, a simple design like the two-tone with pinstripe that you're talking about is so close to so many existing designs that I doubt a copyright infringement claim could be successful.
I think you ought to ask as a courtesy, but it probably isn't necessary.
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True I guess, but I was kidding about the 1st. In any case, I'd love to see somebody try to claim ownership of "red and white, with stripe". And while I'm at it, I'd like to remind all builders that I claim copyright protection for my "big fan in front/little wheel in back" design. 
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Fullerton, Ca. w/beautiful 2.5 year old son 
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06-28-2006, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Lantz,Nova Scotia ,Canada
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I've been an aviation artist for a number of years and self copyright everything I paint, a lot of times you find that your original one of a kind idea has already been thought of by someone else or you see many like yours after the piece has been completed. I wouldn't worry much about it , you will make it your own in a lot of ways. I think you are going to see a few RVs around in a while that look a lot like Paul Dye's perhaps mine included
http://acam.ednet.ns.ca/paulsart/paulsart.htm
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Last edited by Paul Tuttle : 06-28-2006 at 02:03 PM.
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06-28-2006, 02:21 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake St. Louis, MO.
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Originally Posted by prkaye
.....is it considered bad form to copy someone else's paint design? I found a guy whose RV-9A paint scheme and colours I absolutely love........is copying someone's paint design something that is just not done?
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The shop that painted my C-150 in its unique and distinctive 4-color scheme had at least two other customers commission their aircraft to be painted exactly the same way. I once spied one of the planes (a Cessna 172) at another airport and for a nanosecond thought someone stole my airplane! I always took that as a compliment.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...9&page=4&pp=10
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