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07-25-2006, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: near San Diego
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Originally Posted by fl-mike
The RANs price includes seats, upholstery, FWF kit, engine gauges, prop, etc. A bit more than a typical Vans kit includes. I doubt a -12 would be a lot less, similarily equiped.
Both look like they would go together pretty quickly. Very cool.
I did notice that it looks like the RANs is using 6061-T6 while Vans appears to be 2024-T3 Alclad (which they certainly have a lot of laying around). Chris Heintz has always been a 6061 proponent.
Both remind me of the Pazmany PL2. Can't wait to see them.
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As of now, as far as I'm concerned the Rans S-19 and Vans RV-12 are the front runners in the LSA kit race. I could easily see a long and drawn out 'Rans vs Vans' debate coming.
favorite pics so far...
http://www.vansairforce.net/delete_e...y/IMG_1674.JPG
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mdoyle...e2.jpg&.src=ph
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/mdoyle...e2.jpg&.src=ph
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07-25-2006, 04:08 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Hampshire England
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It's great to see the -12 there. Is the Rans 19 also there as it looks to be the main rival at the moment?
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07-25-2006, 04:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Montana
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 I don't want to hurt anyones feelings  but I thought the Cessna LSA entry was cute like a puppy,  and different from all the others. From my point of view, climbing into the Cessna doesn't mean flying attire is restricted to pants. 
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07-25-2006, 04:24 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 122
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That's one of the reasons I like my Glastar. I like the RV's, but there is no comparison as far as ingress/egress.
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07-25-2006, 05:29 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Xenia, OH
Posts: 148
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RV-12
The wings are definitely not foldable, but are removeable like a gliders. The pins look just like any high performance glider setup. If you notice in one of the pictures, the ailerons automatically engage the actuator when you slide them in, again, just like a glider.
The canopy is definitely a tipup, it looks a lot like other LSA's pivoting from the front, hinges on the side.
No toe brakes a single master cylinder, I think, operated with hand actuators on each stick.
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RV-12
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07-25-2006, 06:50 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: near San Diego
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Thanks Mike, appreciate you taking the time.
Did you by chance notice if Rans had their S-19 on hand?
Also, if you happened to take anymore pics of the -12 we'd be more than happy to take a look at them  , if not, no problem, we already have 23 pics more than we had before 
Last edited by Mike Armstrong : 07-25-2006 at 07:01 PM.
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07-25-2006, 07:22 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Xenia, OH
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Rans S19
I haven't seen the S19, at least not at the Rans booth, but I didn't look real hard or ask anybody about it. I've been to the LSA "Mall" and didn't see it, but it could still be there somewhere. Sorry, didn't get any more pictures today.
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Xenia, OH 45385
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07-25-2006, 07:43 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: near San Diego
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No problem, thanks.
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07-25-2006, 09:52 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2005
Posts: 34
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Thanks for taking the time to send the photos
I would like to be there at Oshkosh with you -- but this won't be my year to share the Adventure! I appreciate you taking the time to upload the RV-12 photos so the rest of us can see what an RV-12 is like!!
Thanks again -- use that sun screen!!!
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07-25-2006, 11:49 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: South Africa, Johannesburg
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Hi thanks a lot Mike for the larger pictures!
I wonder what Vans is pondering about in this picture Mike took? You can see the thinking gears are working in his head.
I've read in the recent RVator he does not like the cooling approach some of the other 912 Rotax Enigines has taken, maybe he is thinking about it.
Any other speculations on what the man is thinking about?
Kind Regards
Rudi
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"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure...what more could you ask of life? Aviation offers it all" - Charles A. Lindbergh
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