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Old 06-26-2012, 07:28 PM
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Default The rotary is dead

Today Mazda announced it was discontinuing production of the rotary engine.

Major bummer on many levels.
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:43 PM
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Yeah, well.. Thats the way I felt when 500CC two strokes went away in GP motorcycle racing.
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Old 06-26-2012, 07:56 PM
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Default No more rotary mfg?

Could be a good time to buy all of 'em you can get your hands on?
(I miss my RX7)
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:04 PM
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That is a bit sad after all the money and engineering Mazda put in over the years but there are thousands of engines floating around and will be for many years if you wanted to build one up for a car or aircraft.

The RX8/ Renesis did not do well for Mazda- tons of warranty issues and it was hard pressed to match the fuel efficiency, emissions and power of modern piston engines.
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Old 06-27-2012, 12:50 PM
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I'd bet it's not that big a deal. They also stopped production on the RX-7 prior to startup on the RX-8/Renesis. They've already got a new version of the engine (with significant changes, including a displacement increase & modified direct injection) at the prototype stage.

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Old 06-27-2012, 03:53 PM
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My first run RX8 is still going strong....love it. I do hope the revisit it....decided not to build a plane with one though. But in the car it's been pretty bullet proof. Just did my big 60K mx....

Oh, and from the article:

Quote:
the rotary design is notorious for its low fuel economy and high oil consumption
It's designed to burn oil. That's like saying "wheels are notorious for rolling".

Anywho.
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Old 06-27-2012, 05:28 PM
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Oh, and from the article:
"the rotary design is notorious for its low fuel economy and high oil consumption"
It's designed to burn oil. That's like saying "wheels are notorious for rolling".
Um, no...

Wheels are designed for the purpose of rolling. Engines are designed for the purpose of converting chemical energy into mechanical energy.

Rotary engines having high oil consumption is an undesirable consequence of a design compromise. They're designed in such a way that will burn oil, but they're not designed for the purpose of burning oil. There is a difference.

So that quote would be more analogous to saying something like "Brand A tires are notorious for high tread wear".

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Old 06-27-2012, 07:05 PM
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The rotary is dead.... long live the rotary.

Interestingly enough, the rotary lives on in the ASK21Mi self-launching glider.

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Old 06-27-2012, 07:09 PM
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The Mazda Wankel rotary engine uses an engine driven pump to meter oil directly into the intake system, for the purpose of lubricating the combustion chamber seals.
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Old 06-27-2012, 07:39 PM
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Actually, the correct quote would be: "V-8 engines are notorious for burning gasoline"


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Um, no...

Wheels are designed for the purpose of rolling. Engines are designed for the purpose of converting chemical energy into mechanical energy.

Rotary engines having high oil consumption is an undesirable consequence of a design compromise. They're designed in such a way that will burn oil, but they're not designed for the purpose of burning oil. There is a difference.

So that quote would be more analogous to saying something like "Brand A tires are notorious for high tread wear".

Anywho.
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