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Old 04-16-2012, 01:26 PM
TS Flightlines TS Flightlines is offline
 
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Well anyway---using the IMPERIAL 470 bender the closest flare to bend centerline you can get is 1.5 inches. Any closer, and you need a mandrel bender. Pretty expensive, and way beyond what a normal RV builder would need. (If you happen to have one--call me!). I take the 819 sleeve and shorten the leg to where it just protrudes out of the nut about .050. This still gives great support to the flare, and centers the nut. It also allows the flare to tube bend centerline to be shortened from 2.25 inches to 1.5 inches.

I'll try to get pics posted tonite--
Tom
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Old 04-16-2012, 03:19 PM
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Tom, I'm looking forward to a picture. Thanks.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:56 PM
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Default my modified bender

I hope these come out.
4 pics showing the 470 FH Imperial bender, modified to move the bend closer to the flare. One pic shows a short piece of stainless, nut & sleeve, and a support mandrel. It does NOT change the bend radius, on supports the tube against the tab while bending.



http://https://lh6.googleusercontent...ools.JPG?gl=UShttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cipCBOnLimc/T4yfNMHdjAI/AAAAAAAAAJU/Wa4VtFXs5BE/s128/bend%20tools.JPG?gl=UShttps://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jvICrYiO-L0/T4yfJvD2zPI/AAAAAAAAAJM/QHlVTDa8Pow/s128/bend%20radius%20difference.JPG?gl=UShttps://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-cipCBOnLimc/T4yfNMHdjAI/AAAAAAAAAJU/Wa4VtFXs5BE/s128/bend%20tools.JPG?gl=US
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:59 PM
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ok Picasa album uploading for idiots---help
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:24 PM
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I took the long URL https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c...ools.JPG?gl=US

and shortened it to http://is.gd/k0ND43

using a URL shortening extension in Firefox. There are several different URL shrinkers, for instance, bitly.com is another one, or tinyurl.com.

However the photo that appears is quite small...looks like a thumbnail photo.

Google photo albums used to be easier to use before they forced the Picasa stuff into Google+. Here's how I share a Picasa album online.

First, using Picasa, select your photos and upload them. Seems you've already done that.

Now go to a web browser and enter this URL: https://plus.google.com/u/0/photos/

Click on the square button labeled Albums. At least that's what it is for me, but I have a Google+ page, and if you don't it might well be different.

Anyway when I click Albums I am sent to a page with all my photo albums. Click on the album you want (your 4 photos). You'll see all the photos.

Click on the square button labeled More and a popup menu opens. Click Share Album via Link. Ctrl-C to copy the highlited link. Paste into your message here on VAF.

I created a test album of some build photos I just took (canopy cabin frame for my tipup RV-9A). Here's the link:

https://plus.google.com/photos/10634...OflyJv_yvii8wE

Try this last link and you'll see it goes to my test album.

It seems you got almost this far but maybe produced links to each photo?

BTW, I almost don't use Picasa to share photos anymore because of the Google+ nonsense. I prefer Dropbox. But I only mention it as another option, not a suggestion you switch to that.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:10 AM
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ok Buggsy---
Jim sent me an email, and I email the pics to him. Geee---this uploading pics stresses me out. Send me an email and I'll email you the pics too.
Tom
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:32 AM
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After spending many, many, many hours on this problem, I finally ended up just moving the Andair pump forward an inch or two. Then there was enough room to have a longer tubing piece, which made it possible to make the bends properly. I ended up ordering a new center cabin cover, but that was minor compared to all the hours spent trying to make the tube bends work beforehand.
This was a good move. And you will be rewarded every time you service the filter.
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Old 04-17-2012, 02:40 PM
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Gasman,
You raise a good point. If I install my Andair fuel filter/boost pump assembly per instructions, it appears that I would have to remove the mounting screws from the boost pump, then shift it forward slightly before I could detach the filter from the aluminum lines. In addition, I'm trying to find a mounting location for a second fuel filter to satisfy the requirements of my Precision Airmotive Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. Lots of head scratching going on.

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Old 04-18-2012, 10:55 AM
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Default Another idea

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Gasman,
You raise a good point. If I install my Andair fuel filter/boost pump assembly per instructions, it appears that I would have to remove the mounting screws from the boost pump, then shift it forward slightly before I could detach the filter from the aluminum lines. In addition, I'm trying to find a mounting location for a second fuel filter to satisfy the requirements of my Precision Airmotive Silver Hawk EX fuel injection. Lots of head scratching going on.

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Jim,
You might also consider moving your two fuel filters into the wing root area. This will make future filter inspection & cleaning easier and no worries about spilling fuel inside the cockpit. You also protect your fuel selection valve, as it will receive filtered fuel. Just an idea [not mine originally] and worth what you paid for it.
Charlie
PS The fuel filter sold by AFP and Vans is a Flow Ezy model 6 ILA. For wing root mounting, the slightly smaller model 4 ILA work well. They are available from numerous vendors including Pegasus Auto Racing Parts [owned by RV builder Chris Heitman] See

https://www.pegasusautoracing.com/pr...asp?RecID=3469

AFP probably could supply 4 ILA filters as well.
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Old 04-18-2012, 01:59 PM
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I've seen one person use an right angle fitting to avoid having to make the bend in the tube (specifically by the fuselage wall where the tube turns away from the spar).

Critics will say that's one more place to leak, but if you stressed the tube during bending trying to get it to fit, then which option has the better chance of leaking? If the fitting is leaking, you can just tighten it. If the tube is leaking, your replacing the whole tube...

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