VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

-POSTING RULES
-Advertise in here!
- Today's Posts | Insert Pics

Keep VAF Going
Donate methods

Point your
camera app here
to donate fast.


Go Back   VAF Forums > Activity Specific > Trip Write-ups
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-08-2012, 10:03 PM
TroyBranch's Avatar
TroyBranch TroyBranch is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 457
Default Flying with kids can change some plans.

We had planned a trip to take the kids to Disney land. Plans always seem to change and this trip was no different. We had the plane packed and we were just waiting for a good weather slot to go. The weather was looking good to go but our daughter became sick with a fever. She was clearly ill so we put off the trip until she was better.
A week went by and the weather was looking great again to go. The timing was good as we would be leaving on a Saturday morning. Weather was not good through SW Montana and all the way south through Utah. It was forcasted for high winds causing hazerdous driving conditions, not good for flying either. No trouble, we would go through Denver, nothing wrong with a bit of extra flying. The plan was to get as far south as we could so the cold front would not be quite as violent when it went through.
That morning our son woke up early which was great, he felt warm, you guessed it, he had a fever now. He did not act sick and was ready to go. The fever was gone as soon as we gave him some tylenol. I then had to make a decision, go or no go. I figured if we had an airline ticket there would be no choosing. Seeing how this would be the second time cancelling we would fly to Great Falls and see how he did.

Off we went and cleared customs in short order. Our son was fine and ready for the next leg. I had talked to Scott Mills as to where to stop and he suggested Greely for lunch. Flight plan filed and off we went.



It was a long bumpy ride. Most airports along the route were over 30kts and we had about a 40kt cross wind at altitude. We chugged along as the kids played with the Apple Technology.



As we approached Casper the famous line came up. "Dad I need to pee!!" Are you really going to make me land in these winds? The flying part is fine, the doors are no fun to open in 40kts. The instigator soon dozed off and we pressed on with our fingers crossed. 15 minutes out of Greely he woke and really needed to go. He learned how to hold it and we made it into Greely for lunch.
We took our time getting the plane tied down and soon found out the restaurant closed in five minutes. Well that plan did not quite work but we got a car to head into town. It was a nice break and the decision was to get over the rocks again into Santa Fe for the night.

We climbed out and soon got cleared through the Denver Bravo south bound. We looked down at Front Range as we went by. (We will visit one day Scott) Winds were now straight on the noze. Under 30 kts so we were happy. We had planned to Santa Fe Via Pueblo. There was many dust devil/storms getting kicked up making the ride fairly rough.
We soon turned on course direct to Santa Fe and started our climbed.



Center was quick to advise that the minimum IFR Altitide through our route was 16k. We flew the pass and were soon over the Rio Grande.



Not long we were in our descent to Santa Fe just as the sun was setting. It was a good day with 1050 nm flown.





That night is when the plans started to change. I woke up in the middle of the night with a not so good stomach. Needless to say I got bad food and was in bed for then entire next day. Something you always hope never happens while traveling in your own plane. I could finally eat the next day "somewhat" but felt pretty good. The weather was looking fine to Phoenix so we had filed a direct route for Glendale.

Getting packed up. Thought it was supposed to warm this far south!



Not long west of Albuquerque we hit lowering ceilings and snow. That was in the forcast for Santa Fe that afternoon and all the METARs looked good west bound. Trouble was there was no airports where the weather was down and I did not know how bad it would be until I got into it. The XM showed it as lightly scattered, the vis was just to poor to fly in that kind of terrain. We turned around and went for lowering terrain.

See Continuation.....
__________________
Troy Branch

RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019

Last edited by TroyBranch : 04-08-2012 at 10:07 PM. Reason: Another Pic
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-08-2012, 10:05 PM
TroyBranch's Avatar
TroyBranch TroyBranch is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 457
Default Continued...

We ammended our flight plan to head south through Demmings. FSS quickly advised that all areas along our route of flight had sustained winds over 30kts. That sounded better than snow! We soon cleared the snow virga and the winds became evident. It was nothing but brown skys ahead. The wind had the dust picked up above our altitude. All of the high altitude flyers were complaining about the rough ride. They could not find good air anywhere. It just was one of those days for everyone.



Again I said to my wife, I hope the kids do not need to pee. We chugged along doing our best to airport hop if we had to land. Choosing runways that were somewhat into the wind. Did I say it was rough;-) I said to my daughter that this is just like a roller coaster but she did not believe me. I am so glad everyone has good stomachs and not prone to motion sickness. This flight was deffinately the test. We planned for Tucson as they were at least down to 28kts. We made a long slow final after a long grueling 3.1hrs flight. A flight that was a little much after just recovering from bad food. The desicion was made to spend the night there as the winds just were not letting up.



Note the direction I have the plane is tied down, the winds just would not let me turn it around tail in. All tie downs were facing the same way.





To be continued....
__________________
Troy Branch

RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019

Last edited by TroyBranch : 04-08-2012 at 10:31 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-09-2012, 07:17 AM
blahphish's Avatar
blahphish blahphish is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Marietta, GA (KCZL)
Posts: 312
Thumbs up

I always love it when people write up their trip stories! Thanks for sharing. Its great seeing the kids and all that gear packed in the back. Amazing how much these things will hold.

I especially liked seeing the shot of the Tucson runway. I grew up there and its on my short list of places to fly into when our project is done.
__________________
Brian Unrein
RV10 N42BU 1,000+ hours!
First flight 6-16-12
https://N42BU.com
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-09-2012, 08:45 AM
ppilotmike's Avatar
ppilotmike ppilotmike is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 2,013
Default Me too!

I love a good trip write-up too. It's like we're along for the ride. I can't wait to read the next chapter..
__________________
Mike Rettig
EAA Chapter 301 www.eaa301.org
VAF Dues Current
RV-10 - Working on engine / prop installation
http://www.mykitlog.com/users/index....ig&project=803
F-14 (Pedal Plane - Daughter's Project) "Flying"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKCyX2FXrlw
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-09-2012, 09:57 AM
TroyBranch's Avatar
TroyBranch TroyBranch is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 457
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by blahphish View Post
Its great seeing the kids and all that gear packed in the back. Amazing how much these things will hold.
We have to take a lot of extra stuff on trips this time of year. We can be landing where there is several feet of snow or high heat. We all had our snow gear along for the ride just incase.
__________________
Troy Branch

RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-09-2012, 10:46 AM
Mike S's Avatar
Mike S Mike S is offline
Senior Curmudgeon
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
Posts: 16,096
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TroyBranch View Post
We have to take a lot of extra stuff on trips this time of year. We can be landing where there is several feet of snow or high heat. We all had our snow gear along for the ride just incase.
You are lucky the kids dont weigh much.
__________________
Mike Starkey
VAF 909

Rv-10, N210LM.

Flying as of 12/4/2010

Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011

Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.

"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-09-2012, 11:11 AM
N427EF N427EF is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,564
Default Disney trip

Troy,
Great story!
I am on the way to Disneyland today,currently
Enjoying coffe in San Luis Obispo before heading south
Into Fullerton.
Looking forward to reading the rest of the story flying home
__________________
Ernst Freitag
RV-8 finished (sold)
RV-10 IO-540 8.5:1
Running on 91 Octane E10 mogas since 2011
Don't believe everything you know.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-09-2012, 11:15 AM
Wayne Gillispie Wayne Gillispie is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: USA
Posts: 1,499
Default Looking for the continuation...

We'll be taking our first long xc(not as long as yours) with 9/12 yo kids the end of May to Disney World, FL. Yes, we are at 2700 lbs with full fuel and 100 lbs of baggage. We especially enjoy the family trip write-ups...keep them coming. We will share some of ours later this year. Take care, have fun and stop by if you head East.
__________________
Good judgment comes from experience, and a lot of that comes from bad judgment.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-09-2012, 09:12 PM
TroyBranch's Avatar
TroyBranch TroyBranch is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
Posts: 457
Default Continued.....

We rented a car in Tucson and took a drive out to the Bone yard. A couple of A10's were playing in the curcuit. It was amazing to see all the dead airplanes. There is just so many. We got back to our room by dark and turned in for the night. Each night our son would develope a bit more of a fever. And this night our daughter was having the same trouble. Lots of coughing and little sleep for all of us.

The next day was just to be a short flight over to Glendale. A friend of ours had graciously lent us his house in Surprise. We would use this time to hopefully get the kids into shape to make Disney Land.

Lots of Jet activity to watch over head.



We fired up and taxied out to Alpha 6 while playing chicken with a Southwest 737. He turned off the taxi way before us, I guess we won. We were soon in the climb heading for smooth air and north west bound to Glendale.



The ride was much better than the day before. The only obsticles was several skydivers in the area. We kept clear as we made our way. The kids hauled out the trusty books for some great in flight entertainment. This flight they did not have to hold onto everything quite so tightly



We landed in Glendale about noon. A friend of ours helped us unload and get the plane tied down. He was also kind enough to bring us to the house. Thanks Garrett! The kids continued to be feverish that night and our daughter started to get a plugged ear and ear ache. Well we were not going anywhere. Their energy was shot and all we could do was give them medicine. We went to the zoo to say we had did something on our vacation and made a plan to get home.

I figured we would launch for Vegas as it was a short flight to test out the kids ears. If there was real issues I would send them home in the commercial tube. The flight went fine in the smooth air to Vegas.



We landed at Henderson and went in for lunch. The weather was looking good to Provo with only scattered snow showers near Provo. We got cleared through the Bravo and got asked to expedite the climb to 9500 for traffic, sorry kids hope your ears are OK. It did not bother them and we were soon on course to Provo.



The snow showers had just moved through the area and we were able to land with out any trouble per say. Well our sick kids were now passing on there wonderful sickness to us. My wife and I felt something coming on when we woke up that morning. It hit me on the flight and my ear got plugged on the way down. Nothing too serious but a bit annoying. The shuttle brought us to the hotel and we asked that the plane get plugged in early morning as it was going to get below freezing.

We awoke to a perfectly clear sky. It was a great day to be flying. They air was smooth and cool. We got cleared through the Salt Lake Bravo north bound. It wasn't long we were on a direct route to Great falls. We climbed to 10,500 and then to 12,500 for the rockies. It was -16c at altitude and it looked like the middle of winter below us. There was a nice scattered layer that floated below us.



We flew over Ennis and then Three Forks to make our way into Great Falls to do the E-apis and Canpass calls. I know I was going to regret being at 12,500 when it was time to come down. I never fly when I am sick but it is different when you are trying to travel. My ear was plugged yet again but cleared on the ground. We got everything in order and launched for Customs in Lethbridge. Got the code and made the last leg to home for a 4:30 arrival.

The total trip was 2750 nm flown. Total hours slept was very little. Total hours flown was 18.1. Never added up the fuel but no matter the cost it is just to much fun to fly. We missed Disney and San Diego for a second year in a row so third time must be a charm. Kids are just about better now, but my wife and I are now sick. We are glad we came home when we did.

Lessoned learned, if the kids are even a bit sick, cancel the trip for when they are better. It is just not worth it. With your own plane you can make the schedule. Take advantage of that. I did not have the will to cancel twice but have learned my lesson the hard way.

New York this summer, were aren't leaving until they are 100% healthy
__________________
Troy Branch

RV10 Built and Flying Since Feb 2009
950hrs Plus
CC EX-2 Flying
SuperSTOL Built and Sold
RV9 Built and Sold
Avid Aerobat Built and Sold
Dues paid Nov 2019

Last edited by TroyBranch : 04-09-2012 at 10:30 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 04-09-2012, 09:22 PM
nevetsw18 nevetsw18 is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: T67
Posts: 88
Default

really a testament to patience! looks like the journey is just as fun as the destination
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 09:44 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.