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Old 05-30-2013, 06:17 AM
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Thanks Dave. Looks like I'll be making a trip to the local electronics shop, unless I can find the right connector somewhere in the kit. Good tip about riveting the brackets in last, after everything is connected. That's what I should have done too. I'm taking the two young grandkids to see Cirque du Soleil tomorrow. I might apply for a job there after today's contortions getting that black box and its plumbing fitted into the top of the fuselage.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:31 AM
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Just because they have metal screws doesn't mean they are ferrous magnetic screws. They could be stainless, aluminum alloy, or some other material that is non-magnetic. Check them with a magnet.

For what it's worth - it would be better to start a new thread for something like this, with an appropriate subject line. It will be more likely to get people's attention.
That's true John, but both black and silver screws stuck to the magnet, so I may need to get another connector. I did think about starting a separate thread, but this one is where most of the Skyview related installation queries are, so it seemed the best place.
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Old 05-30-2013, 11:25 AM
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Home Depot usually has a good selection of brass screws. If the screws are ferrous but not magnetized it may not make any difference. I am always surprised by what does and does not cause my Cherokee's whisky compass to swing.
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Old 06-23-2013, 10:56 AM
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I am still working on this old set of problems. My attention right now is on the trim wires.
WAY back years ago we ran a wire, called P 30, from the tailcone all the way up to behind the panel, never could find what we were supposed to hook them to.
The Skyview conversion harness has a duplicate of those wires, color codes at least, going from a plug behind the panel down and apparently back to the trim motor. I had the trim motor hooked up to the P30 ancient wires, it appears to me that I must now change the connectors, and use the conversion harness wires to the trim motor?
This of course means trying to crawl back in the tail and removing the old and installing the new. I cannot find much guidance on this, and before I do it would like some assurance that this is the intended course of action. Does anyone remember this step?
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:35 PM
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Don, I think I would try to use your existing wires - I did. You can switch to the new Molex Cx if you want - mine were wired up with the spades and I left them that way.

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Old 06-23-2013, 01:13 PM
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I was going to leave the P30 and splice it on to the new Skyview wires. Then came the next problem, the "new" wires, color coded the same as the old P 30, consists of only four wires, the trim motor and P30 have five (the extra one is white)! Of course they are not labeled, so who knows what they were supposed to do, but same color codes and long enough to reach the trim motor seems to give me a clue.
Could they have possibly been intended for the ADSB-in box or something else besides trim?
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Old 06-23-2013, 01:25 PM
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If you're using the schematics from Van's it's quite easy. Pin-layout and colors all included. I downloaded the files to my iPad and use AutoCAD WS to view them. In the fuselage harness there are also five wires for the trim.
If the four wires you're talking about are twisted then it must be wires from the old harness and they will not be used anymore.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:42 PM
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If the wires are colored red, black, white/red, white/black, they go to the ADHARS. There are four TX/RX wires and the OAT wires that terminate at the ADHARS also. I remember hooking up the original trim wires directly to the AV5000. I eliminated the conversion harness baggage.
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Old 06-23-2013, 06:58 PM
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Don, I did the original fuselage wiring, then waited for Skyview, then used the conversion harnesses. The trim stuff did not change. No skyview related changes were needed, just connect like it says in the plans. the trim works through the AV5000 box and there is a pot on it. Many have found the pot be turned all the way off and have to turn it a bit before the trim motor starts running. Hope this helps.

Those wires you are talking about are probably the wires to the ADAHRS. There are revisions there - like the OAT goes back here, not to the panel like the D180. Forget the wire colors, go back to the plans step by step, they work. Also the waaaay earlier posts in his thread.
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Old 06-23-2013, 09:58 PM
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Thanks Bill, I have been thru this thread several times, in fact I ran all the comments off this morning so I could study them. I had almost come to the same conclusion about the original trim wire, thanks for putting that to rest. I have the ADHRS and OAT all hooked up, that seemed like a no brainer and worked well.
That leaves me with this wire, long enough to reach the trim motor and the same color codes, and I have no idea when it got there or what it is for. I am hoping it is a spare, it will be perfect to wire my ADSB-In box if it is in fact not part of the plan. Maybe a photo will help:
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