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Old 07-11-2012, 02:38 PM
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Default email?

Bill was the message received via email? I looked on Vans service bulletin site for the -12 and didn't see anything.
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Old 07-11-2012, 02:46 PM
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Yes, via email. Perhaps your harness was later than the date they mention.
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Old 08-01-2012, 05:46 PM
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Default Comments on Section 42D Skyview Update Instructions

I am almost finished with this section that was initially somewhat intimidating. The main difficulty I faced was to sort out what applied to my project as this section is covering a full retrofit from an RV-12 equiped with the previous Dynon and Garmin avionics and with the engine. Granted VANs did it's best to explain what to skip, particularly if you don't have the engine installed but there are still lots of things you have to figure out. What was written earlier in this thread was helpful and I have a special thank and kudos to Bill Hollifield who went out of his way to document his work for the benefit of all of us.
In hindsight, this retrofit is not as bad and difficult as it looks at first glance. I dreaded the rewiring but following the instructions, in particular removing the pitot line to make room through the bulkheads was very helpful. I dreaded passing back the pitot line and I had to struggle a bit but nothing out of the usual that you cannot solve with your builder's skills. I was much concerned by the passage of the tube under the F-1202B panel base and through the F-12125 Over rudder wireway, here is the trick I used: I fished the tube with a 18g steel wire that I attached to the tube through a little hole I made in the plastic (I had previously cut the end of the tube at an angle to facilitate the routing through the bulkheads and the plastic tabs in the tunnel).
As I received my Avionic kit in May, I think I benefitted from improved instructions and I would recommand builders in my case to just trust the instructions and in case of doubt call Vans first and read this thread completely even if some information is no more valid due to updates.
In conclusion I think VANs was right to take the time necessary to produce an Avionics retrofit that was of very high quality.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:05 PM
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The main difficulty I faced was to sort out what applied to my project as this section is covering a full retrofit from an RV-12 equiped with the previous Dynon and Garmin avionics and with the engine. Granted VANs did it's best to explain what to skip, particularly if you don't have the engine installed but there are still lots of things you have to figure out.
I know what you mean. I only had a couple of the old D180 harnesses partly installed and no engine, pitot tube etc. Now I find I'm having to work forward in the old plans to understand what's not there, and then refer back to the new plans to work out what the changes are. Of course, Vans have to assume that you have completed the D180 installation. In my case it would have been simpler to just pull all the old wiring out and order a clean Skyview installation. Hindsight is a great teaching tool!
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:24 AM
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Although this thread appears to be dormant - I have been burning it up! I should have done the wiring upgrade back then, but thought I would wait until the bugs were worked out.
I am about done, but have become stumped by several small questions, maybe someone who has been there can help me (I had wired for the D180, then upgraded wiring to the Skyview):

1. Page 42D-23, step 3 speaks of a COLORED L456 and L458 wires. Mine are plain white. They are supposed to go in pin 6 of the wing connectors, yet no drawing of the wing connector ever shows these numbered wires there. What am I missing?

2. 42D-22, step 1 has us remove the power outlet wire, and put in a new one from the harness. My harness does not have that "new" wire to install!

3. I am left with a purple/yellow and a Yellow/green wire with no instructions as to where they go. An earlier post indicated these were for the cockpit light, but the light was already wired earlier. Does this offer a new wiring, or should they just be cut off and ignored? I can find no mention of them in the plans.

4. Earlier in the plans, there was mention of a new grounding wire for the headset jacks. However I have not seen any wire or instructions to accomplish this.

Any help to any of these problems would be appreciated.
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:34 AM
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1) Check connectivity between pin 33 optional connector to pin 6 of the wing connector - these are only nav.
Check connectivity between pin 34 optional connecter to pin 8 of the wing connector - strobe lights.
I also had a yel/red witch split in 2x white wires for the nav light (as far as I remember).

2) power wire should be at pin 30 optional connector.

3) 42D page 19 step 5

4) new kits have grounding at the panel (and isolated headset jacks). Old kit has local grounding.

The AutoCADWS (web based/free) and files from Van's are great for troubleshooting ->For files scroll down
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Old 05-12-2013, 09:56 AM
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OK I have determined that my question number 1 is simply describing a color difference between plans and wiring harness.
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Although this thread appears to be dormant - I have been burning it up! I should have done the wiring upgrade back then, but thought I would wait until the bugs were worked out.
I am about done, but have become stumped by several small questions, maybe someone who has been there can help me (I had wired for the D180, then upgraded wiring to the Skyview):

1. Page 42D-23, step 3 speaks of a COLORED L456 and L458 wires. Mine are plain white. They are supposed to go in pin 6 of the wing connectors, yet no drawing of the wing connector ever shows these numbered wires there. What am I missing?

2. 42D-22, step 1 has us remove the power outlet wire, and put in a new one from the harness. My harness does not have that "new" wire to install!

3. I am left with a purple/yellow and a Yellow/green wire with no instructions as to where they go. An earlier post indicated these were for the cockpit light, but the light was already wired earlier. Does this offer a new wiring, or should they just be cut off and ignored? I can find no mention of them in the plans.

4. Earlier in the plans, there was mention of a new grounding wire for the headset jacks. However I have not seen any wire or instructions to accomplish this.

Any help to any of these problems would be appreciated.
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Old 05-30-2013, 02:45 AM
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I've just installed the ADAHRS unit (#$@!! job, and I hope it's robust because I dropped it in the fuselage a couple of times). On mine, the 9 pin plug that goes in the back has the typical black plastic clamshell surround and long black thumb screws. However, apparently I should have a backshell 2 at this location to avoid magnetic interference.

What does a backshell 2 look like? Is it one of those silver screw-together types? If so, the ones I have also have long metal thumb screws, so I can't see that they would be any better. What should I be looking for? Thanks all.
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Old 05-30-2013, 05:56 AM
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I've just installed the ADAHRS unit (#$@!! job, and I hope it's robust because I dropped it in the fuselage a couple of times). On mine, the 9 pin plug that goes in the back has the typical black plastic clamshell surround and long black thumb screws. However, apparently I should have a backshell 2 at this location to avoid magnetic interference.

What does a backshell 2 look like? Is it one of those silver screw-together types? If so, the ones I have also have long metal thumb screws, so I can't see that they would be any better. What should I be looking for? Thanks all.
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Old 05-30-2013, 06:11 AM
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....... If so, the ones I have also have long metal thumb screws, so I can't see that they would be any better. .....
Just because they have metal screws doesn't mean they are ferrous magnetic screws. They could be stainless, aluminum alloy, or some other material that is non-magnetic. Check them with a magnet.

For what it's worth - it would be better to start a new thread for something like this, with an appropriate subject line. It will be more likely to get people's attention.
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