VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > Safety
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-26-2011, 04:49 AM
Sig600 Sig600 is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: KRTS
Posts: 1,798
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KC10Chief View Post
By the way, if you watch that survival guy, Bear Grylls, he sucks. He's a total tool bag. That's shock TV. Some of the stuff that he shows you on his show, would likely get you killed in real life, out in the wild.
Don't worry, I wasn't planning on trying to drink water from elephant ****. And contrary to popular belief, no you can not drink your own urine and survive.
__________________
Next?, TBD
IAR-823, SOLD
RV-8, SOLD
RV-7, SOLD
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-26-2011, 04:54 AM
az_gila's Avatar
az_gila az_gila is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
Smile

Another consideration.

Put a nice easy to see strap on your emergency equipment bag/container.

Have this strap clipped/taped/hung somewhere easy to see, easy to grab and above all of your luggage.

If you do need the stuff and you have to exit the plane real quick, the last thing you need to do is hunt for the emergency bag under all of yourr other stuff....

I found orange 1 inch webbing did the trick for my emergency kit. The container I used is a stuff bag from the camping store.
__________________
Gil Alexander
EAA Technical Counselor, Airframe Mechanic
Half completed RV-10 QB purchased
RV-6A N61GX - finally flying
Grumman Tiger N12GA - flying
La Cholla Airpark (57AZ) Tucson AZ
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-26-2011, 07:31 AM
Bruce's Avatar
Bruce Bruce is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Anywhere, USA
Posts: 1,132
Default Great thread

I have been to the same courses except the cold weather one and here
is a list of a few items that are light weight and can be put in
pockets of a fly fishing vest:

Compass
Iodine pills
collapsable container--zip lock freezer bag
whistle
signal mirror
small first aid kit--butterfly bandaids
emergency blanket-foil-2 oz
Gun and Ammo--check laws
wire saw
Book--How to catch live animals

All of these items are easily put in the vest and then all the other items
that are listed on the first two post.


Good Hunting
Boomer
__________________
Bruce (BOOMER) Pauley
Kathy (KAT) Pauley

RV 7A--"MISS MARIE"--- N177WD (SOLD FLYING)72742
VAF #582-----------------EAA LIFETIME MEMBER
EX -KC-135A -------------BOOM OPERATOR #3633
VAN'S FLIGHT------------#6930

See you in OSHKOSH


http://www.mykitlog.com/users/index....ley&project=84


=VAF= 2006-2020 DUES PAID
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-26-2011, 07:49 AM
flion's Avatar
flion flion is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 2,653
Default

If it's not on your person, don't count on having it. Consider Todd's RV-10 explosion (sorry, Todd). If it had happened after even a nice off-field landing in the wilderness, any survival gear he had been carrying would be gone.

I wear a Casio Pathfinder, everything else I need could go in my pockets though a vest would be handy as a carryall along with being some extra clothing. I do like a bush knife when hiking or camping but wouldn't be able to wear it comfortably in a plane - it's a 12" blade, serrated on both edges and 3/16" thick at the tang. I also have a Gerber multi-tool in a holster on my belt; heck, I use that often around the hangar.

Add some strong twine, a space blanket, a small first aid kit that includes some sutures, and one of those magnesium strikers and I should be able to get out of the woods in a few days, if I'm ambulatory. If I've got the vest, I'd be sure it carried a water bag.

Better still, the best thing you can take with you is your brain. Stock it with training. Real survival courses are less about tools and techniques and more about attitude and planning. I can't name any good ones because my uncles took care of it when I was a kid; they and my mom grew up on a farm in Mississippi. I don't know where you can get that kind of training anymore.
__________________
Patrick Kelley - Flagstaff, AZ
RV-6A N156PK - Flying too much to paint
RV-10 14MX(reserved) - Fuselage on gear
http://www.mykitlog.com/flion/
EAA Technical Counselor #5357
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-26-2011, 05:02 PM
Bruce's Avatar
Bruce Bruce is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Anywhere, USA
Posts: 1,132
Default

There is some good reading material here:

http://www.wilderness-survival-skills.com/index.html
__________________
Bruce (BOOMER) Pauley
Kathy (KAT) Pauley

RV 7A--"MISS MARIE"--- N177WD (SOLD FLYING)72742
VAF #582-----------------EAA LIFETIME MEMBER
EX -KC-135A -------------BOOM OPERATOR #3633
VAN'S FLIGHT------------#6930

See you in OSHKOSH


http://www.mykitlog.com/users/index....ley&project=84


=VAF= 2006-2020 DUES PAID
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-27-2011, 02:49 AM
GusBiz's Avatar
GusBiz GusBiz is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
Posts: 211
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
Book--How to catch live animals
This should be placed along side your "how to pick up women" Book

Both Text are equally as effective.

There is a certain art to both of these practices that need some experience or else you will be as effective as a blink man looking for a black hat in dark room.
__________________
Gus Bisbal

RV7

Obsession only exists when someone else isn't doing it too.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-27-2011, 08:11 AM
kevinsrv7.com's Avatar
kevinsrv7.com kevinsrv7.com is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 145
Default

A firearm and bear spray is good to have as well in remote areas.
__________________
www.kevinsrv7.com
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-27-2011, 08:52 AM
Danny7 Danny7 is offline
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: central oregon
Posts: 1,089
Default

the petzl tikka comes in a variety of options (red cover for night vision, etc) and is better made than some of the other headlamps.

you could use hi quality energizer or duracell batteries, but one thing i've liked to do recently is use eneloops- available at costco for a good price. they used to sell them with the charger but now they come without it.

http://www.eneloop.info/ why are they better than other rechargables? they keep their charge longer.
__________________
nothing special here...
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-27-2011, 11:04 AM
CPSONE's Avatar
CPSONE CPSONE is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: BC Canada
Posts: 216
Default Survival gear

This is one of the items I carry in my baggage compartment, along wih a full survival kit and a Spot. The knife and Hatchet are built like a tank.

Timberline Alaskan Bush Pilot's Combo

__________________
Mike
RV-6 emp, done-sold,
RV7A QB. Passed pre-cover and sold!
Disclaimer: Everything I say can be presumed to be wrong. Don't try this at home.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-27-2011, 02:13 PM
Jim F Jim F is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Canby OR
Posts: 119
Smile Emergency kit

One of the things I have not heard any of you mention is a pot or vessel of some kind to heat water or melt snow.

My "Possibles Kit" is housed in a #7 can (Juice can size) with a wire bail and a wide mouth quart plastic bottle inside. Inside the bottle are all the bits and pieces of the kit (fire-starter, first-aid, needle & Thread, tea, Kendall mint cake, para-cord, wire, wire saw etc.) The whole kit weights about two pounds and can be grabbed with one hand. I wrap some sheets of plastic around the bottle before squeezing it into the can.

The object of the can is to enable me to heat water, melt snow, and keep hydrated without a lot of further improvization.

Bob Kagle, the guy who taught me most of this had the philosophy, "you can simply survive, or you can survive simply" if you surviive simply, (aka comfortably) you are probably also doing it safely.

I have practiced these skills on the NOLS course in the Wind River Mtns and in the winter in the Cascades, and find spending the overnight on snow in the mountains to be nothing more than an inconvenience if I have the above mentioned gear. It doesn't have to be an ordeal.
Jim
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 07:48 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.