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12-16-2011, 04:45 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
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Electronic ignition
Which plugs to use with and electronic ignition, aviation or automotive???
Any suggestions will be appreciated
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12-16-2011, 04:56 PM
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What system??
My Slick LASAR electronic ignition uses standard aviation plugs.
Other electronic ignitions use auto plugs.
Most of the electronic ignitions I know of use a plug gap of .035" or so, and thus auto plugs work well.
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12-16-2011, 05:38 PM
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Automotive NGK Uridium Plugs, gap will depend on compression ratio.
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12-17-2011, 05:05 AM
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12-25-2011, 05:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: TX32
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4 for 6 bucks!
I have been using a single EI and Mag setup on my RV's since Jeff Rose built the first true system back in the 90's. My current RVX has a Jeff Rose Electroair system and I chose to use Automotive plugs, no adapters and Accel plug wires. Adapting the EI automotive plug wires to aircraft plugs can present some challenges. For me though, it boiled down to cost. I have been running them nearly 3000 hours in previous and current airplanes, no worries.
I replace the auto plugs every inspection, $6.95 at Napa. I use either Autolite 386's or Denso L-14U plugs(18MM). Worked in my IO-540 powered Rocket and my 0-320 powered X, the same. Clean, plentiful, easily accessible and cheap.
Smokey
Last edited by smokyray : 12-25-2011 at 05:48 PM.
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12-25-2011, 08:57 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Corvallis Oregon
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Automotive plugs and no adaptors?
Quote:
Originally Posted by smokyray
I have been using a single EI and Mag setup on my RV's since Jeff Rose built the first true system back in the 90's. My current RVX has a Jeff Rose Electroair system and I chose to use Automotive plugs, no adapters and Accel plug wires. Adapting the EI automotive plug wires to aircraft plugs can present some challenges. For me though, it boiled down to cost. I have been running them nearly 3000 hours in previous and current airplanes, no worries.
I replace the auto plugs every inspection, $6.95 at Napa. I use either Autolite 386's or Denso L-14U plugs(18MM). Worked in my IO-540 powered Rocket and my 0-320 powered X, the same. Clean, plentiful, easily accessible and cheap.
Smokey
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Can this be true??
Frank
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12-26-2011, 05:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by smokyray
I have been using a single EI and Mag setup on my RV's since Jeff Rose built the first true system back in the 90's. My current RVX has a Jeff Rose Electroair system and I chose to use Automotive plugs, no adapters and Accel plug wires. Adapting the EI automotive plug wires to aircraft plugs can present some challenges. For me though, it boiled down to cost. I have been running them nearly 3000 hours in previous and current airplanes, no worries.
I replace the auto plugs every inspection, $6.95 at Napa. I use either Autolite 386's or Denso L-14U plugs(18MM). Worked in my IO-540 powered Rocket and my 0-320 powered X, the same. Clean, plentiful, easily accessible and cheap.
Smokey
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The "new" Jeff Rose ignition systems - aka Electroair - recommend using REM37BY aircraft plugs, even for their experimental systems.
http://www.electroair.net/pdf/Installation-Manual.pdf
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12-26-2011, 06:10 AM
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I agree with Gil. I run the 37BY plugs using a standard .016 gap with great success.
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12-26-2011, 12:27 PM
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When I replaced my previous EI with an ElectroAir EI a couple years ago, Mike at EA asked if I wanted to go with auto or aircraft plugs. I asked what he recommended, and he said Aircraft. He said he likes REM37BY because they are easy to gap (due to the electrode design)...so I went with his recommendation. As Gil mentioned, that is reflected in their install manual as well.
Not sure if the aircraft plug recommendation is related to their efforts to get the system certificated (which it may now be...haven't kept up with that), but Mike did say either (auto or aircraft) works great.
I started with REM37BY on the EI and REM38E on the mag, then just went all REM37BY, for commonality of spare parts, etc. I gap the mag plugs to .016 and the EI plugs to .030-.035. Seems to be working quite well!
Smokey's system works great, and ya can't argue with the costs! I've been happy with the performance and reliability of my EA system as well, so looks like we have a nice set of options!!
Cheers,
Bob
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12-26-2011, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Cincinnati, OH
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I have a Plasma III and a mag and I use Denso IK27's on the elecronic side and have had excellent service from them. They cost less than 6 bucks each and I replace them at every annual. My mag side uses UREM40E's and they look good too, but cost a lot more. I tried some iridium plugs one year and they worked fine, but cost 3X as much. They are made to last a long time, and I don't need that. The standard Denso's will easily last a year, even if you fly 200 hours, and then you throw them away. My Unisom plugs last a long time and I clean and gap them every year, but installing new plugs on the electronic side is sure quick and easy.
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