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Old 11-21-2011, 09:08 AM
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Unhappy How do I fix this?

While drilling the HS skin my bit jumped and I ended up with this




I am not sure what to call it, or how to fix it? It's in the underside of the trailing edge of the HS.

Thanks for your help!

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Old 11-21-2011, 09:41 AM
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Every situation is different, but it's rare that a single weak rivet installation is of major concern. It's on the bottom so it won't be obvious; just go with it. You can drill another hole with proper distance from that rivet to compensate, structurally.
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Old 11-21-2011, 12:18 PM
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Prep it for a rivet as ususal, put in a rivet, if it makes you feel better, put some JB weld on it & move on. It's on the bottom, out of sight, & no one will probably ever see or notice it. As Van says "you're building an airplane, not a watch."

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Old 11-21-2011, 01:32 PM
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If it were me, I'd just debur it and counter sink like normal. When it's time to set the rivet, mix up a tiny amount of epoxy... Put a drop in... Then set the rivet. When it's smooth, sand it down with your finger and a little 300 grit, hit it with some primer and move on. The epoxy will give the rivet something to grab on too. Or you could just set the rivet and fill the void with superfil.

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalo...s/superfil.php

Either way, no one will ever know, especially after paint.. Just make sure to debur, don't want it turning into a crack down the road. The loss of a little strength from that one rivet is negligible.
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Old 11-21-2011, 02:06 PM
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If you have the edge distance, you might as well drill it up to a AD4 rivet and re-dimple. That way, the larger rivet head will cover more of your mistake. Then just fill when you get to paint stage.
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Old 11-21-2011, 07:16 PM
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If you have the edge distance, you might as well drill it up to a AD4 rivet and re-dimple. That way, the larger rivet head will cover more of your mistake. Then just fill when you get to paint stage.
Ditto...this is how I would fix it. Or just use an oops rivet. They have a wider shank but the same size head. This is no sweat...it won't be the last ding.
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:00 PM
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Like several others have said; drill it out and put in an AD4. If you are a purist, scotchbrite it and fill with super-fill. After priming the skin come back with a piece of hobby shop brass tubing the same diameter as an AD3 rivet and lightly twirl it over the rivet. You will have a nice rivet outline that even the judges at OshKosh would love.

Just because I know how to do this doesn't mean there are any disguised AD4 rivets in my left elevetor, 'er I mean airplane
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Old 11-21-2011, 10:52 PM
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Yeah, seriously. I mean my airplane has every rivet size Van called for. Done right the first time. On every single one.

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Old 11-22-2011, 11:39 AM
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Thanks! Ordering some super fill now.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:02 PM
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Default Fixing figure eights -siamise rivets

...what about countersinking the larger hole, squeezing a flush rivet in that hole, then drilling/countersinking the smaller hole for another flush rivet? I saw a guy do this once. A dab of fill/sand when painting will hide the evidence. No need to wait for epoxy of superfill to cure.
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