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11-11-2011, 04:46 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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Wing Access Panels Seal?
Hey all,
I am wondering if some of you have sealed your wing (and emp) access panels? I am not sure what would be best. I am not sure if it even needs it. Still, with the AP servo and Pitot controller, it seems that it might be a good idea?
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Tony Phillips
N524AP, RV 9 (tail wheel)
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11-11-2011, 06:43 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Waller, Texas
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Nope
I have no seal of any kind on mine. I've flown through rain plenty of times and all the 'stuff' in the wing stays nice and dry. Don't try to keep water out of the airframe. Otherwise you may inadvertently keep water from draining out and that has the potential to KILL you.
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11-11-2011, 07:06 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake St. Louis, MO.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by apkp777
Hey all,
I am wondering if some of you have sealed your wing (and emp) access panels? I am not sure what would be best....
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Access panels, wherever located can be waterproofed/sealed using good old proseal as the gasket material. The technique, long and widely used in the aerospace industry is known as FIPS or "form in place sealing." I did a ton of that type of work in the production environment and briefly discussed the general technique here:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...55&postcount=7
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11-11-2011, 07:14 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Denver, CO
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rick6a
Access panels, wherever located can be waterproofed/sealed using good old proseal as the gasket material. The technique, long and widely used in the aerospace industry is known as FIPS or "form in place sealing." I did a ton of that type of work in the production environment and briefly discussed the general technique here:
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...55&postcount=7
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Rick, I like this idea...what do you recommend as a good 'non-stick parting agent'?
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Ron Duren
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11-11-2011, 07:44 AM
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Good idea if you plan on putting floats on your RV  , otherwise a waste of time IMO. Like one poster said above, always think drainage if you do decide to go this route.
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11-11-2011, 08:03 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
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I do understand the concern about drainage. Being a taildragger, I don't think drainage would be an issue. I am only thinking about the 6 lower wing access panels, particularly the 2 that are C/T the pitot controller and AP servo.
Ricks method is what we did at the airlines, I wonder if instead of proseal, what about a very thin layer of clear RTV, let cure then put the panels on.
I am concerned about this as on our way back from SNF this year, my friends TruTrak servos got waterlogged and froze at altitude. We were on short final in terribly gusty conditions when the servo finally sheared and it made for quite a ride 20 feet off the ground. Apparently TT said this had never happened before? I suppose the tornado/ horizontal rain may have had something to do with it.
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Last edited by apkp777 : 11-11-2011 at 08:28 AM.
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11-11-2011, 08:42 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RV7Ron
...what do you recommend as a good 'non-stick parting agent'?
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Ron,
I cannot recommend a suitable parting agent for proseal because I never FIPsed a panel outside the production environment. Perhaps someone else can tell you what they successfully used.
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Rick Galati
RV6A N307R"Darla!"
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11-11-2011, 09:08 AM
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The application I am considering is for front deck access panels. And after doing a search, it looks like others have done ProSeal FIP gaskets for this. I wonder if something as simple as vasoline would work? Either way, this is a handy tip...thanks.
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Ron Duren
Mechanical Engineer
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Denver, CO (KBJC)
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11-11-2011, 09:30 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Schaumburg, IL
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Ron, I just talked to a friend who told me he used carnuba wax and RTV. He said it worked great. I think I might give it a try.
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Tony Phillips
N524AP, RV 9 (tail wheel)
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11-11-2011, 09:39 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Houston, Tx
Posts: 163
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Old Modelers trick.
A trick you all might want to try is an old modelers trick of taping good old Saran wrap to the panel and installing it while the RTV/proseal is still wet. When it sets up just remove the panel and peel the Saran wrap off.
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Bill S.
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