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09-30-2011, 11:27 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: SFO Approach
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Any reason to Alodine Alclad?
I found a shop in town that will dip my entire Emp. kit in hexavalent chromium for $100. Not a great deal, but I can't express how little I care for paint/primer prep. I guess what I'm asking is whether a chromate layer will hurt the alclad or not 
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09-30-2011, 04:01 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Florida
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No, it won't hurt the Alclad. It will also improve the adhesion of any primer or paint you apply to the surface. It will also prevent corrosion of the raw [no cladding] edges and rivet holes. It also adds no weight to the structure.
The 6061-T6 parts [angle] are not Alclad.
Charlie
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09-30-2011, 04:16 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
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Charlie knows what he is talking about  For years he was running S-n-F workshop and even got a pin.
You coming next year Charlie?
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09-30-2011, 04:18 PM
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Methinks the dip in alodyne should be preceded by a dip in acid etch, and a good rinse.
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09-30-2011, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike S
Methinks the dip in alodyne should be preceded by a dip in acid etch, and a good rinse.
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Yes I was going to ask the shop what their process was going to be. It is a metal finishing shop so im sure (hope) they know a thing or two about what they're doing. I will probably get all the parts match drilled, deburred and ready to rivet before I bring them over for a bath. Hope there are no headaches !
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09-30-2011, 04:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chaskuss
No, it won't hurt the Alclad. It will also improve the adhesion of any primer or paint you apply to the surface. It will also prevent corrosion of the raw [no cladding] edges and rivet holes. It also adds no weight to the structure.
The 6061-T6 parts [angle] are not Alclad.
Charlie
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Thanks for the response, Charlie! I've never had much of a stomach for paint/prep so the more of that I can have a professional take care of the better
Frank
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09-30-2011, 04:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Freericksburg, VA
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I'm positive the shop will clean,acid etch as that would be part of any standard (certified) procedure. It may be they don;t do certified procedure but there are hardly any customers who would use them so they'd be out of business.
$100 is a bargain. Most minimums for this procedure run $50-75 for a basket of small parts.
Go for it. If you want to go all in, mil spec, etc. epoxy prime after the Chem Film treatment. But if it were me I'd just wait and prime the outside as part of final finish process.
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09-30-2011, 04:50 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: SE Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Echo Tango
Thanks for the response, Charlie! I've never had much of a stomach for paint/prep so the more of that I can have a professional take care of the better 
Frank
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Frank,
I can understand that. I have no idea where you live or where you plan to fly your RV once it's flying. This factor has a a considerable effect on the likelyhood of corrosion. Below are links to some of my previous posts.
Vlad exagerates. I do NOT run the sheet metal workshop at Sun 'N Fun. I simply run the Alodine demonstration in the sheet metal workshop there. Yes, Vlad, I'll see you in April at Sun 'N Fun. See
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...40&postcount=6
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...hlight=Alodine
Frank,
If you decide to spend the money, be sure to deburr and dimple all your rivet holes and deburr the edges of all parts prior to taking them to the shop.
Charlie
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09-30-2011, 04:57 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,145
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Charlie, your tent is dry and folded, ready for next Sun and Fun. However Rich already offered me a place in his camper. I am coming for two days only. Now back to aluminum treatment

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09-30-2011, 05:04 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WA
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a waste of time, cost, and effort...
this is simply not needed... stay focused on actual construction. spot prime before riveting with rattle can as you see fit.
alternatively, a couple of points to consider with your plan:
if you treat the raw parts you will still have lots of fabrication, finishing, and assembly that will leave many areas without this added 'protection'...
are you really intending to carry this process out with the wings and fuselage? much larger skin pieces where you are likely introducing a high chance of damage from all of the extra handling...
whatever you do... good luck!
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