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Old 09-26-2011, 12:40 PM
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Default Confession Time Static Ports

Well here it goes, I have been putting this off but it is really bothering me. Somehow when I wasnt paying attention, (I had a picture in my mind of how the static ports look on my old 150). I installed my Safe air ports on the outside of the fuselage. I used JB weld and riveted them in Place. Then I realized what I had done. After kicking myself numerous times I have decided to put it to the forum to see what I should do.
So should I just leave them alone or attempt to remove them and Install new ones from the inside. (I am concerned about the JB weld I Used) What are your thoughts. I have read some threads on Static ports and incorrect IAS. Help! (RV7)
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:07 PM
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I would drill out the rivets then get a hardwood wood block or a brass bar and give the safe air port a tap from the side. JB Weld is brittle after it sets.
I'll bet it pops right off. Re-install with existing pre-drilled holes. No sweat, unless you have all your fuse skins on. If you're left with an over sized hole,
install as it should be and use aero-fill or other aproved epoxy filler to fill the void between the port orofice and the fuse skin. My port stands proud of the skin
by about an eight of an inch.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:21 PM
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The error referenced is due to the 'port' hole being too close to the surface, yours would be dramatically away from the surface.

I don't have experience with jb weld, if it is pliable I might see if a small wire like fine piano wire would work down behind it and 'cut' the sealant.

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Old 09-26-2011, 01:26 PM
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@Lorne Interesting, so would you tap from the aft edge to use the bulkhead for support? I would worry about it 'rotating' on the vertical axis and causing a dent?
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:36 PM
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I think you might get some flex if the port is installed too far from the bulkhead, so some judicious tapping from the inside (against the outside of the threaded element) would work. Although another method might prove successful and that is by using a very dull 1" (+-) wood chisel and gently tap as to provide a wedging action under the port base to pop this off (after drilling out the rivet first of course.
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Old 09-26-2011, 01:46 PM
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Use a heat gun to soften the epoxy and it will detach with little effort. Just pay attention and don't overheat the area. You don't need to heat it to the point where it smokes!

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Old 09-26-2011, 02:34 PM
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Default Leave them on the outside

Back when I bought my ports, the nipple didn?t stand proud of the skin, which caused some errors with the static system. Thus, I elected to mount mine on the outside, which works well and doesn?t detract from the looks or slow the plane down more than 1/16th a knot.

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Old 09-26-2011, 02:45 PM
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If/when you take these off, try to place some witness marks with a felt pen to get the proper rivet alignment for re-attachment.
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Old 09-26-2011, 02:54 PM
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I mounted mine on the outside for the same reason as Bill R. They work fine. I believe at least one other RV-10 builder did the same.
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Old 09-27-2011, 10:28 AM
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Default mine are on the outside

I originally installed my static ports from the inside of the skin so they were flush with the outside of the skin. They were installed in the location van's recommended, RV-6. Unfortunately, I found quite a bit of airspeed error at the higher end of the speed range, > 140 MPH. I reinstalled them on the outside of the skin so they are about 1/8" proud. This eliminated almost all of the airspeed error.
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