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Old 09-08-2011, 05:28 AM
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Default Which canopy shoud we take?

Hello all of you!

We've some questions to the sliding canopy for our RV-8. We don't know if we should take the canopy form ?Todd's Canopies? or from Van's.
How similar is Todd's canopy to the canopy of Van's, is the size about the same for example in the height? Does it make sense to take a tint one? And would you prefer a canopy from Todd or from Van's, which quality is better? Is it still possible to take the sliding canopy latch with Todd's Canopy?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Best wishes from Bavaria
Anna
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:36 AM
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Hi Anna,

I used a Todd's Canopy on my -8. The material is a bit thicker which both makes it stronger and heavier. The shape is a little different at the aft end requiring some minor canopy skirt modifications. The slope at the rear of the canopy is shallower with the Todd's than the stock.

The Todd's is less expensive and you have a wider selection of tints available. I went with a tinted version and really like it.

The canopy also comes partially trimmed without the flange and much closer to the final dimension.

I'm very happy with the choice I made.

YMMV

Ken
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Old 09-08-2011, 05:40 AM
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Hello all of you!

We've some questions to the sliding canopy for our RV-8. We don't know if we should take the canopy form “Todd's Canopies” or from Van's.
How similar is Todd's canopy to the canopy of Van's, is the size about the same for example in the height? Does it make sense to take a tint one? And would you prefer a canopy from Todd or from Van's, which quality is better? Is it still possible to take the sliding canopy latch with Todd's Canopy?

Thanks a lot for your help!

Best wishes from Bavaria
Anna
Annan,
You'll see alot of votes for Todd's canopies on here so I'm sure they are good quality. Having met and worked with Jeff and Becky, who makes the stock canopy for Vans, there is no better folks out there - IMHO. I also have noticed that some of the Todd's canopys, when viewed on the flight line at OSH against stock versions, was more 'peaked' or taller overall, a fact which turns me off. I went as low profile as I could and not cut the weldments down.
Also I modified mine with a sloped windshield - which I now sell on my website: www.romeo-victor.com

PS I shy away from tint since I plan to fly at night and I don't need any excuses to make a bad night landing on my narrow home strip.


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Old 09-08-2011, 10:04 AM
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Default Panhandler 1956 response, Sloped Windshield Question

I know the expected result given the sort of blunt RV-8 windshield but have you actually tested this for relative speed against the identical airplane with the stock windshield? If so what were the results? This is theoretical interest only as I do not own an RV-8.

Bob Axsom
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Old 09-08-2011, 10:33 AM
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I know the expected result given the sort of blunt RV-8 windshield but have you actually tested this for relative speed against the identical airplane with the stock windshield? If so what were the results? This is theoretical interest only as I do not own an RV-8.

Bob Axsom
Bob,
Good question.
I haven't had the opportunity to compare it yet. I'm still early in Phase 1 so I haven't even calibrated my aircraft's airspeed yet. I did drag race a 180hp c/s -4 and pulled away, but that's not an apples-to-apples comparison. I'll try to gather some data and report back.
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Old 09-08-2011, 12:22 PM
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This particular product does not blend smoothly to the main canopy. If you look closely you'll see that the canopy and windshield make a small but abrupt discontinuity due to the fact that they aren't tangent to each other.

That might either cause separation or more likely just turbulent flow over the canopy, either of which would increase drag over a fair intersection.

Probably very difficult to eliminate with a flat-wrap windshield.

Dave
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Old 09-12-2011, 09:36 AM
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Thanks a lot for all your help!
Does anybody know how much heavier Todd's canopy is?

Best wishes Anna
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Old 09-12-2011, 10:05 AM
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Default Canopy Question?

Anna,

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Old 09-27-2011, 04:09 PM
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Thanks a lot for all your help!
Does anybody know how much heavier Todd's canopy is?

Best wishes Anna
Where you able to find a difference in the weight?

Thanks

Aaron
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Old 09-28-2011, 05:32 AM
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Where you able to find a difference in the weight?

Thanks

Aaron
Aaron,
Several years ago, Todd told me that an RV8 canopy made from 1/4" thick sheet would be 5 pounds heavier than one made from the 3/16" sheet that Vans supplier uses. Todd can also supply canopies in 7/32" thickness [adds 2.5 pounds] or the stock 3/16"
Charlie
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