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09-05-2011, 07:55 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
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Flap Motor
My flaps quit working today, and I suspect the motor at this point. I have looked at quite a few posts on this forum concerning grease getting into the motor and causing it to quit working. Can anybody tell me if the RV-10 flap motors have had this issue? Are the flap motors the same in all of the models?
Any tips as far as cleaning the grease out of the motor would be appreciated, as well.
I plan to hook up 12 volts directly to the motor tomorrow and see whether it runs or not, as a first troubleshooting step.
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RV-10 N380DM
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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09-05-2011, 08:26 PM
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Join Date: May 2009
Location: Colorado
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Power?
Instead of hooking up 12 volts to the flap motor how bout tying into the other end of the wires and see if you have 12V when you actuate the flap switch. 
Ryan
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09-05-2011, 08:39 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
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Link to Van's Solution for "Flaky Flap Motors"
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09-06-2011, 03:09 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 131RB
Instead of hooking up 12 volts to the flap motor how bout tying into the other end of the wires and see if you have 12V when you actuate the flap switch. 
Ryan
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I have the Vertical Power system in the airplane so can see that I am getting 12v, but nothing is happening at the motor.
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David Maib
RV-10 N380DM
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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"In '69 I was 21, and I called the road my own"
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09-06-2011, 04:15 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Grease
Sounds like grease to me, it's an easy fix.
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09-06-2011, 05:49 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dmaib
I have the Vertical Power system in the airplane so can see that I am getting 12v, but nothing is happening at the motor.
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The VP is not actually looking at the connections to the motor, it only looking at the VP itself.
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09-06-2011, 06:58 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Walt
The VP is not actually looking at the connections to the motor, it only looking at the VP itself.
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But, when I activate the flap switch, the VP display indicates current is being sent through the flap circuit. Wouldn't that indicated that power is getting to the motor? If not, I imagine I would get a fault indication from VP. Yes? No?
At any rate, testing the motor directly with a 12v source seems like a good first step. If it does not work that way, then the motor comes out for a look and probable cleaning.
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David Maib
RV-10 N380DM
New Smyrna Beach, FL
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"In '69 I was 21, and I called the road my own"
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09-06-2011, 07:13 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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I was thinking voltage in the previous post, I would imagine that if the motor is not running due to grease then the current flow that you see would be very low, much less than normal motor current.
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Walt Aronow, DFW, TX (52F)
EXP Aircraft Services LLC
Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
FAA Certified Repair Station, AP/IA/FCC GROL, EAA Technical Counselor
Authorized Garmin G3X Dealer/Installer
RV7A built 2004, 1700+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags
Website: ExpAircraft.com, Email: walt@expaircraft.com, Cell: 972-746-5154
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09-06-2011, 01:32 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: New Smyrna Beach, FL
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Well, I was getting ready to test the flap motor with a borrowed 12v power supply, but decided to try operating them one more time before pulling connectors apart. Naturally, the flaps worked fine. I ran them up and down about 15 times with no problem. I hate it when that happens.  I also took a look at the PDF from Van's that Scremm posted in an earlier post. It seems as if the motors with the grease problem are the earlier motors supplied by Motion Systems. I have the newer motor supplied by Pittman. Has anybody had the grease problem with the Pittman motor?
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David Maib
RV-10 N380DM
New Smyrna Beach, FL
VAF Paid 1/21/2020
"In '69 I was 21, and I called the road my own"
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09-06-2011, 06:59 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scremm
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Twice on my -9 but haven't had to do it in almost 200 hours.
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