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09-03-2011, 09:45 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Jackson, MS
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Tip: Platenuts
With all the platenuts that have to install for new plenum, i found a trick that is a huge time saver.
In the past, I would put a screw/bolt through the hole, screwed it in slightly in the platenut to align a platenut. Then after drilling the attachment holes, I had to take the screw out before going to the next hole.
I put a screw in the platenut and ground the head off. Now just stick the ground off shaft in the hole and drill. Mucho fastero!!!
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09-03-2011, 10:22 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
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A variation is to find which size cleco fits the platenut and drill the initial screw hole to that size. Then locate the platenut to the screw hole with a cleco and drill the rivet holes. Finally, enlarge the initial screw hole to final size. I find that doing it this way I can use both hands on the drill motor. I can really speed things up by drilling all the initial holes first, then installing all the platenuts, then drilling all the rivet holes, and finally enlarging the screw holes in one step. Of course, I think I last did that on the empennage fairing for the -6A; everything is pre-punched on the -10 so I haven't had to do it for awhile.
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Patrick Kelley - Flagstaff, AZ
RV-6A N156PK - Flying too much to paint
RV-10 14MX(reserved) - Fuselage on gear
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09-04-2011, 05:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Louisville, Ga
Posts: 7,840
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A nut plate tool
Most aviation supply houses sell nut plate tools for that purpose.
Simply put the stud in the hole and drill through the side hole. Flip the tool over and insert the little stud in the hole just drilled and drill the other side....even easier;
http://www.atitools.com/kmitac/viewimage.php?proid=610
Best,
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RV-10, 510 TT
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09-04-2011, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,544
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I am with Pierre on this one; Buy a plate-nut tool. Just get the one for the number 8 screws the few other ones can be done the manual way.
I know what I am talking about here, I did three planes without a nut-plate tool, using various time saving screw/clecoe tricks. After I finally got around to purchasing the right tool I have saved hours and hours of work. Not only that, the accuracy is way better, there are never any holes that need to be moved just a little bit one way or the other.
Pay the $ and move on, I wish I had done it earlier.
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09-04-2011, 07:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Granbury Texas
Posts: 1,136
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Order a platenut tool from Avery. You should not even attempt to build an RV without one.
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09-04-2011, 08:01 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Crestwood, KY
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I got the #6 nutplate jig. After you drill for the #6 nutplate you can always go up on the center hole for a #8 screw. That way you can use the jig for #6 and #8 nutplates. You can't use a #8 jig for a #6 screw. I learned this trick from a previous post on the forum.
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Mike
RV-9A Based K6I2
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Building RV-12 with brother
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09-04-2011, 08:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Granbury Texas
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Fearless
I got the #6 nutplate jig. After you drill for the #6 nutplate you can always go up on the center hole for a #8 screw. That way you can use the jig for #6 and #8 nutplates. You can't use a #8 jig for a #6 screw. I learned this trick from a previous post on the forum.
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Correct, buy both tools from Avery.
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09-04-2011, 08:50 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
Posts: 8,145
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Webb
With all the platenuts that have to install for new plenum, i found a trick that is a huge time saver.
In the past, I would put a screw/bolt through the hole, screwed it in slightly in the platenut to align a platenut. Then after drilling the attachment holes, I had to take the screw out before going to the next hole.
I put a screw in the platenut and ground the head off. Now just stick the ground off shaft in the hole and drill. Mucho fastero!!!
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 that's how I did ALL platenuts on my RV. I had mucho time to kill  now burning all that leftover money...
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09-04-2011, 08:57 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Granbury Texas
Posts: 1,136
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Well if you have lots of time great, however this is one of the single most time consuming task even with the correct tooling. The platenut tools are cheap and will save tons of hours vs. the non tool method.
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09-04-2011, 09:01 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flagstaff, AZ
Posts: 2,647
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I only dislike the tools for two reasons: 1) I have to one-hand the drill and 2) it is not always possible to 'clock' a platenut the way I want with the jig's handle in the way.
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Patrick Kelley - Flagstaff, AZ
RV-6A N156PK - Flying too much to paint
RV-10 14MX(reserved) - Fuselage on gear
http://www.mykitlog.com/flion/
EAA Technical Counselor #5357
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