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08-06-2011, 10:14 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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Community lawn chairs
I am sure in HBC there are lawn chairs left back every year, why not have a stash of them available for reuse each year in the camping areas.
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08-06-2011, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: MKE
Posts: 1,519
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Originally Posted by RV7AV8R
I am sure in HBC there are lawn chairs left back every year, why not have a stash of them available for reuse each year in the camping areas.
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Yep, we already do this. Chairs, styrofoam coolers, anything left over that might be useful next year. That stuff gets snapped up pretty quickly by the early arrivals though.
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08-06-2011, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: St. Louis, Missouri
Posts: 135
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Originally Posted by mv031161
In ref bottles of water at $3.00!!! IAC hut was selling ice cold bottles for $1.00. Not everyone was price gouging
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If I remember correctly, Vintage also had $1.00 water plus Popcorn and Pink Lemon Aid for a donation.
I'd like not to see the Big Trucks parked along the flightline road toward the warbird area. This is in front of the "federal buidings" where it looks like the area is becoming VIP seating for the airshow. Same thing to the right of the Brown Arch. Not a good sign for the future.
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08-06-2011, 01:34 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Stilwell, KS
Posts: 1,096
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Storm Ready??
Despite being recently certified "Storm Ready" by NOAA (as heard on EAA Radio early in the week), Sarurday's severe thunderstorm warning and subsequent wind event went unwarned, at least on the ultralight end of the field. Ben and I were visiting friends up there when we got warning on our phones (specifically listing Wittman Field) but the airshow kept going. I feared for Sean Tucker's life when the microburst(?) hit and vendor tents &trailers, ultralights, portapotties, etc went flying. Several ultralights were destroyed but there was no mention of it in Airventure Today-- just a shiny happy photo of the very same ultralights in sunny times, before the wind broke their wings!! So my suggestions are:
1. Make sure a warning is broadcast to the entire field when its issued by NWS, and for goodness sake, recall or divert the flying airshow performers!
2. Quit sweeping the news under the rug! It doesn't have to be "the best Airventure Ever" every stinking year. 
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08-06-2011, 04:15 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ
Posts: 2,393
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EAA
If you could get EAA to stop sweeping things under the rug that would be a monumental achievement. Fon du Lac aircraft parking was way down, Green Bay and Appleton were probably similar. Early in the week, Portage had no EAA traffic, Baraboo was way down from last year. Large vacant areas in antique/classic parking. Do the idiots in Osh really think they can treat us like little children and we will believe anything they tell us?? I will give Mr. Hightower a reasonable amount of time to start turning things around. I am cautiously optomistic. I assume most know that the Airventure Cup Race is on EAA's hit list. Did you know that the flymarket is also on the list? More room for the t shirt and jewelry vendors, who by the way were not doing a spectacular business on Fri.
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08-06-2011, 07:32 PM
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VAF Moderator / Line Boy
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
Posts: 12,256
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KatieB
2. Quit sweeping the news under the rug! It doesn't have to be "the best Airventure Ever" every stinking year. 
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The morning after the F-16 went off the end of the runway, I looked at every page of the EAA "Newspaper" to see what was said - not a single mention of it! It was on Avweb, Aero-News....heck, even CNN had a report!
Nope, only "good" news and press releases get past the editors of that rag....
Paul
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08-06-2011, 07:58 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 1,452
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Emergency services
Just since others are throwing things out for discussion. Could someone comment on the emergency services responses.
Where there have been accidents, it surprises me how long it takes for first responders. I was at the float plane base when the cub crashed in the lake, leading to the two fatals. There was more discussion amongst the staff there about how to be quiet and not let the public know what was going on, and not sound any alarms then there was in getting someone in a boat and out to the site to help. It was at least 8-10 minutes till the first boat left the dock, and no kidding the first two, trolled out to the mouth to not cause a wake! Very odd. When the f18 went off, how long was it till a truck was there and anyone did anything about the fire at the tail. One would think the best of the best would be there for this event.
Just figured with all the hardware sitting around, and all the planes....safety would be jimmie johns fast.
My opinion, but I would have thought osh would be about the safest place to have an aviaition accident. Just something I noted this year. I think there was some discussion after roush jet went down a year ago too. Seems a little slow, then mom is the word, what accident?
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08-06-2011, 08:00 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Lake Havasu City AZ
Posts: 2,393
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EAA
The Cub fatal was reported, other than that just the sunshine pump, even during the monsoons. Almost forgot, due to extensive work on drainage, no mud. But wait- that big camper being pulled by a tractor was stuck in SOMETHING. Looked like mud to me. Mud everywhere on Fri morning.
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08-07-2011, 05:26 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 44
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Just as the F-16 went off the runway, the air boss called "roll the trucks - viper off the end of the runway!". I didn't time how long til the trucks arrived on the scene, but short of anticipating the accident, I don't know how they could have gotten there quicker.
I agree that the Airventure paper seems to ignore any "bad" news. I didn't hear about the cub accident until I read it on an external news site.
pdj
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08-07-2011, 06:22 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Chesterfield, Missouri
Posts: 4,514
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EAA and money matters...
I suppose there is a problem with a few persons who fly in, camp, pack up and leave without registering and paying the fees. There were EAA volunteers on golf carts checking registration credentials.
After 5 days on the site, I was packing up on Thursday when two guys came by and asked rather aggressively why I had not registered. I was wearing the weekly wrist band and responded I did register and had already checked out. They wanted to know where my blue aircraft tag was, it gets turned in when you check out for a refund for unused camping days. The other part was packed up in the airplane with the tent.
I think the one guy may have been a bit embarrassed at the aggressive attitude of his partner, he said nothing. The matter was settled when I showed a receipt and the subject was switched from registration issues to the weather. That's the first time anything like that has occurred, but I suppose some people do cheat and these guys were doing their assigned job.
Later I looked at the receipt I had produced, it was not for camping and registration, it was for fuel. I don't think they read it.
Some years back, a $200+ registration and camping fee was billed to my credit card for over $23,000. I had a registered letter from the credit card company when arriving home demanding immediate payment. A phone call revealed the charge had been rejected twice but a third had a bank code that made it go through. Obviously I disputed the matter and called OSH. They said they would check into it and about a month later the CC account was credited for the charge from EAA. Some worked in the back office had failed to use a decimal point.
Neat thing about the deal was I did not pay registration or camping fees that year, they never did bill for the original correct amount. 
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