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06-21-2011, 05:17 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SoCal
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I didn't read the article in sport aviation, but I did look at the pictures and was blown away. My wife saw it and called it Lexus plane. I gotta say after reading Van's reaction that I feel kinda let down. That shoulder harness route looks completely ridiculous and irresponsible. Sorry, but it's true.
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Fullerton, Ca. w/beautiful 2.5 year old son 
RV-4 99% built  and sold 
Rag and tube project well under way
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06-21-2011, 05:55 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Gundy's O38 (Owasso, OK)
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I hate to see this- one builder being singled out in the most embarrassing way possible. *The concerns are valid, yes, but the approach is woeful. *I was sure hoping for that last paragraph with the happy ending...
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06-21-2011, 05:57 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Paradise,Pa S37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorSpeed
I hate to see this- one builder being singled out in the most embarrassing way possible. *The concerns are valid, yes, but the approach is woeful. *I was sure hoping for that last paragraph with the happy ending...
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I gotta agree with you I love my RV-8 but have never been a big fan of the mother ship 
P.s I have respect for them just not had positive interactions with them
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06-21-2011, 05:58 PM
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fugio ergo sum
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Carlsbad, NM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ProfessorSpeed
I hate to see this- one builder being singled out in the most embarrassing way possible. *The concerns are valid, yes, but the approach is woeful. *I was sure hoping for that last paragraph with the happy ending...
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I'm pretty sure that "Sport Aviation" doesn't make you be the focus of a feature article. It is entirely voluntary.
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Larry Pardue
Carlsbad, NM
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06-21-2011, 06:12 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Granbury Texas
Posts: 1,136
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RV10/Van
I must agree, although some very good points, this was a very poor way to handle the concerns. I do not know Greg however I once saw his 8 at an air show, the most beautiful 8 I have ever seen just like the 10. I think Greg represents what this hobby is about, yes there are a few safety issues like the seat belt however the rest is just a bad editorial. This guy may want to do long cross countries by himself and has simply added fuel capacity for that mission. If he wants to carry more passengers he can adjust his fuel load. I think Van is a great guy but this could have been addressed much more professionally.
Pat
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Originally Posted by Professionally
I hate to see this- one builder being singled out in the most embarrassing way possible. *The concerns are valid, yes, but the approach is woeful. *I was sure hoping for that last paragraph with the happy ending...
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06-21-2011, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Schaumburg, IL
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Great article. However, in regards to the seat belts, I think I would end up with a compressed spine/broken back in a significant crash (among other injuries).
Seems to me that the stock design (which I did NOT modify) will create significant downward force in crash for someone tall like myself (6'3"). Am I wrong about that? (not an engineer, just an A&P)
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06-21-2011, 06:35 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Clarion, Pennsylvania
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I think that articles like the one Van wrote provide the community with a great perspective and an important counterweight to articles like Sport Aviation publishes. I really appreciate reading his stuff, and I sure didn't see any hint of anything I would label unprofessional. Van, keep the good articles coming.
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06-21-2011, 06:43 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: WA
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Seatbelts...turbulence, acro, crash...
several reasons for a good restraint system... turbulence, acro, crashing... lots of turbulence and acro... crashing, not so much. The five point harness in my 7 is a good compromise.
Is there a 5th point option on the 10? It looks like he might have been attempting to get better turbulence restraint.
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RV7 powered by a lycoming thunderbolt IO-390
turning a whirlwind HRT prop
with more hours flying than building... 2,430 on the hobbs!
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06-21-2011, 06:47 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: broussard louisiana
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While talking about seatbelts, I thought it was pretty weird that I ordered an entire airplane kit (RV8) and did not receive any type of seatbelts. I guess I have to buy them separately. Who would of guessed...
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Ben Bell
RV8 (sold)
Awaiting Kitfox SS7 kit
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06-21-2011, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton, Nevada --- A34
Posts: 1,464
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He asked to be judged
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Originally Posted by n5lp
I'm pretty sure that "Sport Aviation" doesn't make you be the focus of a feature article. It is entirely voluntary.
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Perhaps even more relevant is that the builder submitted his plane for judging. It is entirely appropriate to judge the plane/build.
This situation is a great example of a set of flawed judging standard, IMHO. Give me safety and function over looks. Beautiful plane but I wouldn't want to own or fly in it.
Thanks, Van.
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RV3B, NX13PL "Tsamsiyu" co-builder, TMXIO-320, test platform Legacy G3X/TruTrak avionics suite
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GNC255 Nav/Com, GA240 audio panel)
RV8, N188PD "Valkyrie" (by marriage)
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