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06-21-2011, 11:12 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sherwood, Oregon
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High empty weight
There is a -6a out there that has an empty wt listed as 1195 lbs. This seems very high even given the fact that it has an angle valve engine, CSP, leather, and so forth... I don't recall one this heavy before...
Thoughts from anyone?
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Jerry Cochran
Sherwood, Oregon
RV-7a 707DD Bot from David Domeier 12/01/11
Lycoming IO-360 Catto 3 blade Panel upgrade in progress
RV6a 18XP 1st flite 03/21/07 sold to Dale Walter 10/22/2011
Superior IO-360, Hartzell Blended, GRT/Dynon
Happily "autopaying" DR
"Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself."
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06-21-2011, 11:21 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Cochran
There is a -6a out there that has an empty wt listed as 1195 lbs. This seems very high even given the fact that it has an angle valve engine, CSP, leather, and so forth... I don't recall one this heavy before...
Thoughts from anyone?
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Since you asked................mine is 1172. It's a very spirited machine, light at the touch, trims very well...........and is as fast or faster than some, with the same engine & lighter weight.
Mine isn't a lightweight, but I prefer the leather seats and constant speed prop. Includes weight of the oxygen tank behind the seat. O360 A1A & Hartzell 2 blade C/S. 1850 lb. gross BTW--- there are several I know of, that are heavier.
L.Adamson --- RV6A
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06-21-2011, 12:35 PM
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Thanks Larry, that's good info. I've also seen a number of 6a's listed around 1050 empty. of course with 320's, wood or composite props, basic panel, cloth.
Great aircraft either way for sure.
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Jerry Cochran
Sherwood, Oregon
RV-7a 707DD Bot from David Domeier 12/01/11
Lycoming IO-360 Catto 3 blade Panel upgrade in progress
RV6a 18XP 1st flite 03/21/07 sold to Dale Walter 10/22/2011
Superior IO-360, Hartzell Blended, GRT/Dynon
Happily "autopaying" DR
"Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself."
Mark Twain
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06-21-2011, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sacramento, CA
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My 7A one could say fully loaded, though not a direct comparison to a 6A, came out to 1168 lb painted with base/clear coat type paint.
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06-21-2011, 07:26 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: West Chester, Pa
Posts: 583
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My 7A unpainted 1120 lbs
Painted 1136 lbs
For kicks I weighed it with all the stuff in it I normally fly with. Some tools, extinguisher, maps, bottled water, hand held radio etc.. etc.. 1167 lbs
Simple paint job, Flight line interior
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RV 12 N237VW ELSA
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West Chester Pa
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06-21-2011, 07:42 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Utah
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Originally Posted by Jerry Cochran
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Bathroom scales maybe?
If I remove my full leather interior and Big Bear Clock I could go easy under 1000 ##. Unpainted, no primer, Catto, O320.
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06-21-2011, 07:44 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Moose Jaw, SK, Canada
Posts: 550
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Cochran
There is a -6a out there that has an empty wt listed as 1195 lbs. This seems very high even given the fact that it has an angle valve engine, CSP, leather, and so forth... I don't recall one this heavy before...
Thoughts from anyone?
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I am currently shopping for an A model RV, and have looked at the ad for this aircraft; I have to say the weight freaks me out a bit. Great looking plane, but awful heavy. Very interesting to hear from others with comparable planes and their perspective on the issue.
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06-21-2011, 07:52 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: KSLC
Posts: 4,021
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Originally Posted by gerrychuck
I am currently shopping for an A model RV, and have looked at the ad for this aircraft; I have to say the weight freaks me out a bit. Great looking plane, but awful heavy. Very interesting to hear from others with comparable planes and their perspective on the issue.
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In light of the "other" thread, currently running..........in which gross weights are a major subject........
---What if the RV6 wing just turned out to be a lot stronger than original estimates---
Perhaps Van's aircraft was just very conservative....way back then. Afterall, his designs were simple panels and light. Most didn't have C/S props either.
I wouldn't freak out, one bit. But that's all I'm going to say...
L.Adamson ---- RV6A
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06-21-2011, 08:15 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 12,887
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An RV-6 with an EW of 1196 is one of the heaviest RV-6(A)'s out there.
In looking over a copy of Dan's W&B list, there are only two heavier RV-6's (four if you toss in RV-7(A)?s) out there.
That significantly reduces your useful load, if the aircraft's GW is based on Van's number.
Having had the pleasure to fly the exact same airplane with two different engines and two different EW's, the handling difference between the two is significant.
Just like in cars, but more so; the lighter it is, the better it feels.
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RV-9 (Yes, it's a dragon tail)
O-360 w/ dual P-mags
Build the plane you want, not the plane others want you to build!
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06-21-2011, 08:22 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 4,208
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Originally Posted by N941WR
An RV-6 with an EW of 1196 is one of the heaviest RV-6(A)'s out there.
In looking over a copy of Dan's W&B list, there are only two heavier RV-6's (four if you toss in RV-7(A)?s) out there.
That significantly reduces your useful load, if the aircraft's GW is based on Van's number.
Having had the pleasure to fly the exact same airplane with two different engines and two different EW's, the handling difference between the two is significant.
Just like in cars, but more so; the lighter it is, the better it feels.
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I agree with this sentiment. Heavier weights compromise the delightful handling of the RV series, particularly at low speeds. My -6 is a vastly different flying airplane at 1225 lbs vs 1675, which is the heaviest I've flown it.
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Marietta, GA
2001 RV-6 N46KB
2019(?) RV-10
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