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05-02-2011, 07:46 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
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Originally Posted by Bill.Peyton
BTW, which heat boxes did you have installed?
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Van's aluminum heat boxes.
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Ted Chang, VAF #681
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05-02-2011, 07:55 AM
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I have often thought that the firewall should go aft of the firewall and extend a foot or two along the floor of the aircraft. Ted, from what you can see how far would we have to put an exterior cover of stainless to get protection?
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05-02-2011, 08:47 AM
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Ted, that stuff looks familiar. Got a brand name or source?
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I got that from Flightline Interior in 2006. I was not thinking about fire proof but heat insulation.
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05-02-2011, 09:16 AM
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A word of advice.....
Ted, the dry chem fire extinguisher residue needs to be cleaned up as soon as you can do so-------depending on what compound was used, it can be bad news for the aluminum 
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05-02-2011, 09:50 AM
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Wow, so the smoke and continuous burn could be the insulation fire. I am going to remove the insulation blank from my RV-9A before next flight.
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05-02-2011, 10:12 AM
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If one wanted to install some type of insulation in the cabin for either thermal and/or sound reduction, what would be a better option? I'm not talking about fire protection here as there's a long thread on DanH's research on that subject already. In this case I'm curious as to what might be used in the tunnel and other areas of the cabin that might not produce clouds of smoke during a similar type of accident (ie type and duration) as Ted's.
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05-02-2011, 01:20 PM
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I used 1/8" Fiberfrax from ACS on tunnel bottom and aft fw
I used a propane torch on it and heated it bright orange. Removed torch and could grab it with my fingers in 3 seconds. It does produce some light gray smoke after heat is removed and flame did not spread. I did not test with it bonded to alum or ss with high temp latex glue. Now you guys got me thinking about thin stainless on the bottom. I am installing a fire detection system around engine compartment using fusible links from the hvac field.
That fire was much worse than I first imagined. Thank you for the pics and many answers to all of our questions so soon. We all have learned a great deal from this.
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05-02-2011, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike S
Ted, the dry chem fire extinguisher residue needs to be cleaned up as soon as you can do so-------depending on what compound was used, it can be bad news for the aluminum 
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I vacuumed as much out as possible. However, there is a thin layer of powder even under the baggage compartment floor. They are most probably under the pilot and passenger floor too. I don't think I can get all of them out without drilling out all rivets. Any suggestions as how best clean them up?
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05-02-2011, 03:11 PM
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Assuming your insurance company has looked at things, and gives you the green light to start disassemble, I think you could/should start by removing any damaged panels that will need to be replaced. That should give much better access to a lot of the areas. For the floorboards, it really in not a lot of trouble to drill out the pop rivets, and get the panels up. I had to do that in my plane to run wiring conduits, and it was tedious, but not difficult.
I would caution against trying to rinse the residue out, I suspect it would only make things worse.
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05-02-2011, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike S
Assuming your insurance company has looked at things, and gives you the green light to start disassemble, I think you could/should start by removing any damaged panels that will need to be replaced. That should give much better access to a lot of the areas. For the floorboards, it really in not a lot of trouble to drill out the pop rivets, and get the panels up. I had to do that in my plane to run wiring conduits, and it was tedious, but not difficult.
I would caution against trying to rinse the residue out, I suspect it would only make things worse.
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Thanks. No, I have not rinsed it.
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