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04-30-2011, 07:00 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2010
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Really Stupid Question
When flying a experimental aircraft what is the proper call sign to use with the FAA for filing flight plans or picking up flight following. Is it required to use Experimental with the call sign or is the N number acceptable.
George
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04-30-2011, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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This has been discussed a few times before 
There is no solid answer--------we have a few controllers on the forum, and they are not consistent in their answers, it seems to be a local area preference.
There are FARs that deal with it, but again, the comments from the controllers have not always been in line with a strict interpretation of these regs either.
And before someone gets the idea I am bashing controllers, not so.
One of my neighbors who is a retired controller gave me a bad time for using "experimental" in my radio calls-------and another buddy who is a controller says to use it in the initial contact, then no more.
Around here (central Calif) most folks use "RV" and the N number, most of the local control guys know what an "RV" is.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010 
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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04-30-2011, 07:13 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Paragraph (28) of operating limitations:
"The pilot in command of this aircraft must notify air traffic control of the experimental nature of this aircraft when operating into or out of airports with an operational control tower. When filing IFR, the experimental nature of the aircraft must be listed in the remarks section of the flight plan."
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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04-30-2011, 07:19 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Anaheim, Ca
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You can use the search function and search on "experimental call sign" to see a lot of previous discussions.
Here is a link to one of the longer threads.
Happy reading.
http://www.vansairforce.com/communit...ntal+call+sign
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Mark Beattie
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RV6 fuselage in work
N642ML reserved
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04-30-2011, 10:00 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NJ
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Mike,
You got a problem with controllers?
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04-30-2011, 11:45 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Dayton Airpark, NV A34
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O.K., I'll take the bait
Quote:
Originally Posted by tkatc
Mike,
You got a problem with controllers?
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No, not at all.
Said so in my first post.
My reference to them is based on who I feel should be looked at as an authority in questions like this------nothing more.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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05-01-2011, 05:37 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: NJ
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Just messing with ya, Mike. I think your original answer was spot on. If the controllers can't even agree on it, it is probably one of those never ending debates and each opinion has valid reasons as to why or why not.
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05-01-2011, 09:32 AM
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Thanks Tony
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Originally Posted by tkatc
I think your original answer was spot on.
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Gosh, I just love hearing that
For those who have not seen Tony's thread "Ask a controller" this and a host of other questions are discussed.
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Mike Starkey
VAF 909
Rv-10, N210LM.
Flying as of 12/4/2010
Phase 1 done, 2/4/2011
Sold after 240+ wonderful hours of flight.
"Flying the airplane is more important than radioing your plight to a person on the ground incapable of understanding or doing anything about it."
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05-01-2011, 09:44 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Big Sandy, WY
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Another stupid question
Wouldn't this just go away if we used NX registration numbers?
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05-01-2011, 10:45 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas area
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Quote:
Originally Posted by aerhed
Wouldn't this just go away if we used NX registration numbers?
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First off, you can't use "NX" numbers unless you aircraft is over 30 years old or is a replica of one over 30 years old.
Secondly, the "X" is not part of the registration number and is never used in any paperwork or verbal communications.
The "X", when used, simply replaced the "Experimental" placard on the aircraft.
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Mel Asberry, DAR since the last century.
EAA Flight Advisor/Tech Counselor, Friend of the RV-1
Recipient of Tony Bingelis Award and Wright Brothers Master Pilot Award
USAF Vet, High School E-LSA Project Mentor.
RV-6 Flying since 1993 (sold)
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