VansAirForceForums  
Home > VansAirForceForums

- POSTING RULES
- Donate yearly (please).
- Advertise in here!

- Today's Posts | Insert Pics


Go Back   VAF Forums > Main > RV General Discussion/News
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-20-2011, 08:55 AM
UnPossible's Avatar
UnPossible UnPossible is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 543
Default Supporting / Raising Scat Tubing

Hey - still working on the FWF... As you can see in the picture below, I have installed the heat muff and the scat tubing. However, the scat tubing wants to hang too low between the muff and the FW heat valve. I have used some red high-temp RTV to "lock in" the curve around one of the exhausts, but the scat tubing is hanging too low and rubbing the cowl.

Can anyone offer me any suggestions as how to support the scat tubing up a bit higher so that it does not want to rub on the cowl?

Thanks,
Jason

__________________
Jason Tremble
RV-7A (Flying and Sold)
RV-10 in process (@#$$%# Cabin Top & Doors)
Paid for 2020
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-20-2011, 09:05 AM
Toobuilder's Avatar
Toobuilder Toobuilder is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
Posts: 4,643
Default

How about an Adel clamp (with a half inch or so standoff) bolted to the heat shield? I have a cold air scat tube running by my exhaust with the same type of heat shields and it works fine. In fact, I threw it up there with zip ties as a temporary measure and it has flown like that for many hours - if zip ties can take the heat, an adel certainly should!
__________________
WARNING! Incorrect design and/or fabrication of aircraft and/or components may result in injury or death. Information presented in this post is based on my own experience - Reader has sole responsibility for determining accuracy or suitability for use.

Michael Robinson
______________
Harmon Rocket II -SDS EFI
RV-8 - SDS CPI
1940 Taylorcraft BL-65
1984 L39C
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-20-2011, 11:52 AM
Rick6a's Avatar
Rick6a Rick6a is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Lake St. Louis, MO.
Posts: 2,346
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UnPossible View Post
......Can anyone offer me any suggestions as how to support the scat tubing up a bit higher so that it does not want to rub on the cowl?.....
Jason,

This is a difficult scat tube run to get right. After a lot of trial and error, I settled upon a 90? elbow at the heat muff, secured with an adel clamp assembly on the engine mount.

__________________
Rick Galati
RV6A N307R"Darla!"
RV-8 N308R "LuLu"
EAA Technical Counselor
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-20-2011, 08:19 PM
UnPossible's Avatar
UnPossible UnPossible is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Granbury, TX
Posts: 543
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toobuilder View Post
How about an Adel clamp (with a half inch or so standoff) bolted to the heat shield?
This looks like it might work....What did you use for the standoff material?
__________________
Jason Tremble
RV-7A (Flying and Sold)
RV-10 in process (@#$$%# Cabin Top & Doors)
Paid for 2020
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-20-2011, 08:48 PM
David Paule David Paule is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 4,428
Default

It appears as if the rear exhaust stack could have had the slip joint raised up a bit, angled back just slightly so that the straight portion would be longer, and then the heater placed on that one. It would simplify the routing of the hose.

For future exhaust sysytems, of course.....

Dave

Last edited by David Paule : 04-21-2011 at 08:02 AM. Reason: Added comment about future systems.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-21-2011, 08:04 AM
Toobuilder's Avatar
Toobuilder Toobuilder is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Mojave
Posts: 4,643
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by UnPossible View Post
This looks like it might work....What did you use for the standoff material?
An aluminum bushing is often used as an adel standoff, but a few stacked washers or a small length of SS or aluminum tube would work too.
__________________
WARNING! Incorrect design and/or fabrication of aircraft and/or components may result in injury or death. Information presented in this post is based on my own experience - Reader has sole responsibility for determining accuracy or suitability for use.

Michael Robinson
______________
Harmon Rocket II -SDS EFI
RV-8 - SDS CPI
1940 Taylorcraft BL-65
1984 L39C
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-21-2011, 04:05 PM
David Paule David Paule is offline
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Boulder, CO
Posts: 4,428
Default

Also, see:

http://www.romeolima.com/RV3works/FWF/DSCN2610.jpg
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 06-26-2013, 05:54 AM
alpinestar alpinestar is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 11
Default

anybody have any pictures of scat/exhaust standoffs? I have a similar situation to the above pics (scat from firewall area to forward baffle, need to keep off the exhaust). Thinking of a bent stainless strap, hose clamped to the exhaust, with an adel to the scat. I have a few of the stainless heat shields from Spruce.. they seem perfectly adequate as a heat shield but a little wimpy for use as a mounting surface. I'm assuming I really don't want the scat freely rubbing against the shield (or anything else!). Given the distance of my duct run, it really needs to be supported in the center which happens to be right in the vicinity of the exhaust tube, no other stuff close by for mounting. Experimental shortwing piper type of project.
Looking for ideas.
thanks!

Last edited by alpinestar : 06-26-2013 at 05:57 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-26-2013, 11:36 AM
F1Boss's Avatar
F1Boss F1Boss is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Taylor Texas
Posts: 811
Default ??

Maybe the muff will fit on #3 down pipe? Sure would make the SCAT runs easier...you might need a cover with the inney-outey in different places? Changing to 1.5" hose might help too...

The existing plan doesn't look like it will last long.

Carry on!
Mark
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 06-26-2013, 12:53 PM
TX7A TX7A is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Abilene, TX
Posts: 724
Default RTV/fiberglass tape

One thing I did to help reinforce & support SCAT in another area on my plane was to impregnate some fiberglass tape with red RTV. Using some fiberglass tape I have, I cut a strip the desired length. I laid the tape out on a piece of plexiglass (wax paper would probably work) and then squeegeed the RTV into the fiberglass on both sides. (use something stiff like a credit card). Once it's cured, you can use it to wrap around areas on the SCAT where you want to put a clamp. Makes a very durable & flexible material. I suppose you could use the red silicone "rescue tape" instead, but don't think it would be as durable.
http://s488.photobucket.com/user/S7A...glass.jpg.html
__________________
Sam Evans
RV7-A O-360 C/S
VAF#812
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:04 AM.


The VAFForums come to you courtesy Delta Romeo, LLC. By viewing and participating in them you agree to build your plane using standardized methods and practices and to fly it safely and in accordance with the laws governing the country you are located in.