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03-31-2011, 05:23 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: missoula, Montana
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FCC Station license
What is per chance the easiest way to apply for the radio station license that is required for a new experimental aircraft?
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03-31-2011, 05:26 PM
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I think the requirement was dropped a long time ago--------
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03-31-2011, 05:35 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
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A bit confusing but no radio license required
From the FCC:
No Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit is required to operate VHF radio equipment on board an aircraft when that aircraft is flown domestically. You may obtain a Restricted Permit using FCC Form 605. No test is required to obtain this permit. The FCC will mail the permit to you and it will be valid for your lifetime. The fee for a Restricted Permit is in addition to any fee paid for an aircraft license. The restricted radio license is only required for international flights.
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03-31-2011, 06:22 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Delta, CO/Atlin, BC
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Yes, you need the radiotelephone license to operate internationally (at least in Canada from the US), but that is person-specific, not plane-specific. I think it is simply a "pay for the license" fee, no test etc. required (but it has been >30 years since I got mine...).
greg
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03-31-2011, 06:23 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Stockton, CA
Posts: 1,207
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Correct
No license is needed for flights within the USA. If you plan to fly out of country, you may need one, depending on where you're going.
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03-31-2011, 06:28 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: 57AZ - NW Tucson area
Posts: 10,011
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Arehart
Yes, you need the radiotelephone license to operate internationally (at least in Canada from the US), but that is person-specific, not plane-specific. I think it is simply a "pay for the license" fee, no test etc. required (but it has been >30 years since I got mine...).
greg
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NO -- a US Radio License is needed for your plane in Canada.
...but non-one checked at the border when I went...
http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form605/605c.pdf
http://www.fcc.gov/Forms/Form605/605.html
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Last edited by az_gila : 03-31-2011 at 06:30 PM.
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03-31-2011, 07:20 PM
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VAF Moderator / Line Boy
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Dayton, NV
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Boy, I thought SOMEONE here was older than I am...  There used to be TWO FCC licenses that pertained to airplanes - one for the operator, and one for the aircraft. The radiotelephone operator's license was in your wallet, and the Radio Station license was with the airplane's paperwork.
And neither of them are required for domestic operations today....
Paul
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03-31-2011, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3,179
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Aircraft = station
The "station license" has been superimposed on the aircraft registration so it is no longer required. The "operator license" has been superimposed on your airman certificate, but only for domestic service.
Then again, I have one of the old commercial operator radio licenses. Boy do I feel old!
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03-31-2011, 07:29 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: McKinney, TX
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Which is required international
I am a bit confused  , I think the radio operators license is what is required for international and the station license attached to the airplane radios is not, no longer required for any type of flying. Do I have this correct?
I have the operators license as it is required for my airline job. I was not planning to apply for the station license.
Thanks
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03-31-2011, 07:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 3,179
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Sorry Mike I have to recind my "you are right". New comment below.
Last edited by humptybump : 03-31-2011 at 08:02 PM.
Reason: I was wrong so I removed my incorrect statement
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