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03-29-2011, 07:01 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Marion IA
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primer solenoid valve polarity?
I have the Vans primer solenoid valve. It has 2 black wires coming from it. Is there a polarity here, or can I hook either one to +12V/Ground?
I tried it both ways and got a loud click.
I found the datasheet on the web from Skinner, and all it tells me is 12 Volts, 7 Watts.
Thanks for any info,
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Building RV-9A N149DG (slider, IO-320, IFR)
Restored and Flying Beech Super III N3698Q
Marion IA
Struggling with fiberglass
There is no sport equal to that which aviators enjoy while being carried through the air on great white wings." Wilbur Wright, 1905
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03-29-2011, 07:11 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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Wiring doesn't matter, but you should install a clamping diode on the output to prevent spikes (just like you did on the master solenoid).
Also note that port 1 is fuel outlet and port 2 is fuel inlet.
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Walt Aronow, DFW, TX (52F)
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03-29-2011, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Thanks Walt - I caught the whole 2 into 1 port thing, but I couldn't find anything on the wiring. How do you know?
I am going to put the spike catching diode on... what is the best way when it is just wires (not screws like the master & start relays)?
dave
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Dave Gribble VAF #232
Building RV-9A N149DG (slider, IO-320, IFR)
Restored and Flying Beech Super III N3698Q
Marion IA
Struggling with fiberglass
There is no sport equal to that which aviators enjoy while being carried through the air on great white wings." Wilbur Wright, 1905
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03-29-2011, 08:05 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Dallas/Ft Worth, TX
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IowaRV9Dreamer
Thanks I couldn't find anything on the wiring. How do you know?
I am going to put the spike catching diode on... what is the best way when it is just wires (not screws like the master & start relays)?
dave
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Cause I'm really smart 
It's just a coil of wire, makes no difference which way the current flows.
The diode needs to be as close to the coil as possible. When I had this setup I grounded one wire at the mount bolt along with one end of the diode. Cut the other wire and splice on a real tefzel wire and the other end of the diode in the same crimp and you're done.
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Walt Aronow, DFW, TX (52F)
EXP Aircraft Services LLC
Specializing in RV Condition Inspections, Maintenance, Avionics Upgrades
Dynamic Prop Balancing, Pitot-Static Altmeter/Transponder Certification
FAA Certified Repair Station, AP/IA/FCC GROL, EAA Technical Counselor
Authorized Garmin G3X Dealer/Installer
RV7A built 2004, 1700+ hrs, New Titan IO-370, Bendix Mags
Website: ExpAircraft.com, Email: walt@expaircraft.com, Cell: 972-746-5154
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03-29-2011, 09:13 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ankeny, IA
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No polarity
You can go to the Parker website to validate, but the black wire goes to positive, and the black wire goes to negative.
This is very common on industrial solenoids of this type.
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03-29-2011, 09:27 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2005
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Thanks guys - I'll hook up the black wires to positive and negative and I'll be happy. Wish all the wires worked this way!
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Dave Gribble VAF #232
Building RV-9A N149DG (slider, IO-320, IFR)
Restored and Flying Beech Super III N3698Q
Marion IA
Struggling with fiberglass
There is no sport equal to that which aviators enjoy while being carried through the air on great white wings." Wilbur Wright, 1905
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03-30-2011, 02:23 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Garden City, Tx
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IowaRV9Dreamer
Thanks guys - I'll hook up the black wires to positive and negative and I'll be happy. Wish all the wires worked this way!
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This is one of the simplest pieces of electronics - the coil simply makes a magnetic field to actuate the solenoid, and the solenoid does not care one bit about the polarity of that field, just it's presence or absence.
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Built an off-plan RV9A with too much fuel and too much HP. Should drop dead any minute now.
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